Talk:Nuaman

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 103.138.51.162

کیف حالکم اخی العزیز اَلسَلامُ عَلَيْكُم وَرَحْمَةُ اَللهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ‎ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.138.51.162 (talk) 21:07, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Ref #3

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Nishidani, great work, as usual. Just a quick note to say there seems to be a mistake in ref 3 - McCarthy 2010, p. 6. Oncenawhile (talk) 19:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, and thanks for the fixes. Rushed work, and I'm bound to slip up. Thank you guys for checking.Nishidani (talk) 20:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
It's the least I can do! Just to ensure my brief comment wasn't misunderstood, what I mean is that there isn't a McCarthy in 2010 and the 2009 article doesn't have a page 6. Oncenawhile (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
I saw your edit, and like those of NS, I don't check them usually. I thought you'd fixed it. Sorry. I've done so now.Nishidani (talk) 20:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
While I'm here, any chance you could cast your experienced eye over the RFC at WP:IPCOLL? Oncenawhile (talk) 20:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Checked, but, being stupid, (it's a book fixation neurosis. If I see print anywhere, I read it. When I see columns of stuff and links, and technical wiki discussions, I ignore it. If you tell me what the RfC's about, I'll have a look tomorrow, but tonight's strictly for Aeneid Bk 7.Nishidani (talk) 20:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
That sounds like a very civilized evening.
Sorry I misunderstood you. I think you're alluding to an important point - I am not getting enough people commenting on the RFC because it looks too technical. In a nutshell, it's that we have three main articles on the conflict, which is fine, but in my view we should also have a single article bringing the whole summarized narrative in one place.
Oncenawhile (talk) 20:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Location

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Mazmuria and Umm el Asafir in the Survey of Palestine 17-12-Talpiyot-1943 (cropped)
 
Mezmuria and Umm el Asatir in the Survey of Western Palestine 1880.17 (cropped)

See these maps. In the WaPo article it says "At the time the war broke out, the village was located in Jordan... According to aerial photographs taken in August 1967 by Israel's mapping agency, 13 houses ran along the ridge. While showing that the houses existed, the photos have not resolved the question of who lived in them at the time. The soldiers registered the people they found there as residents of Um A-Talla, a West Bank village where the head of their clan lived. Israel then renamed the village Mazmuriya for a Roman archaeological site nearby, erasing Nuaman from the map."

"Ni'man", Mazmuriya and Umm Al Asafir (clearly visible immediately south of Har Homa on the UN map I just added to the article) are all visible on the 1940 map.

I can't see any sign of Um A-Talla. The full map is at File:17-12-Talpiyot-1943.jpg so perhaps there is something there I missed.

Onceinawhile (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Kh. Umm at Tala' is on that map at 175/122, about 5km east of Beit Sahur. Zerotalk 21:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Zero0000, brilliant. I don't know how you do it. So it seems it has become part of Ash-Shawawra, which is just visible on the bottom right of the map in the infobox. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Onceinawhile I do it by looking up the Gazetteer. It has everything that appears on the 1:100K maps. Zerotalk 06:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks to both of you. Even an idjet can walk down a road, but it always a comfort to them to know there are folks on the way who know the landscape intimately, and have the courtesy to point one the right path beyond the Frostian uncertainties.Nishidani (talk) 12:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Levy

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Is widely cited, and the material used here is benign. Ive restored the source. Deprecated does not mean blacklisted, and WP:DEPS does not allow for the indiscriminate removal of deprecated sources. nableezy - 14:41, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Agree, this is ridiculous (also for info http://web.archive.org/web/20060326061650/http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=661298).Selfstudier (talk) 14:48, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply