Talk:List of writers of the Lost Generation

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Softlavender in topic Sourcing

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I do not understand the logic of the subheads, given that some in the "Others" (Hart Crane, Isadora Duncah) spent significant time in Paris.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • I removed it, as poorly defined. I don't feel strongly about this, merely puzzled. "Ex-pat" seemed poorly defined and arbitrary. Glad to talk about it.

Sourcing

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Softlavender: Well, if this is to be not just a list but a category, then its sourcing really, urgently, needs to be improved by an order of magnitude. The concept of "lost generation" isn't the sharpest to begin with, and when it's almost totally unsupported by reliable sources, weasel-worded ("who have been considered", ... "generally applied to reference" (what's that?) ...), then we are teetering on the brink of purest WP:OR. The definition and list criteria need to be sharpened up and cited properly (if they can be); and quickly. The combination of a miniscule overview/definition and a list where only one member is actually cited - though the note to Stein hints at the actual source of the term - could easily be fatal to both article and category. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:34, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

--Softlavender (talk) 10:41, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
They don't look great, and it's hard to understand why one would wish to construct the whole apparatus of a category system if one hadn't studied the sources and considered them robust and reliable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
In its current state, I am not sure if this list would survive a deletion discussion. ―Susmuffin Talk 14:03, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Indeed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment: Neither of you seem to live in the U.S. In the U.S., the writers of the Lost Generation are arguably the most famous in American literature, and the names are very well known and documented as being Lost Generation writers and not under any controversy as to that categorization. We have Category:Beat Generation writers, Category:Beat Generation poets; there's no reason not to have a category on the much more important and well-known Lost Generation writers. Likewise for the list; just because the article isn't sourced, that's no reason it should be deleted. There are hundreds of references denoting the writers of this group. As far as the comment that, for instance, Britannica "[doesn't] look great", well that's news to WP:RS and you're welcome to start a thread at WP:RSN. Softlavender (talk) 23:45, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply