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Series?
editSince this list includes TV movies, shouldn't the article be renamed? Perhaps 'List of television projects based on Marvel Comics' or something like that? Joltman 21:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Japanese Spider-Man series
editJust an additional note here in case the entry is edited out of the page again; the series is completely live-action, and not animation. From it's entry page tokusatsu "a genre of live-action Japanese entertainment". 217.44.10.116 13:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Merge
editI think that the Made for TV movies should be merged with List of films based on Marvel Comics since this page is called List of television series based on Marvel Comics. If you don't think it should be moved, then please elect a new name for the page, as it is not fitting if it includes TV movies. -Joltman 00:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I renamed to better line up with this. TheGreenFaerae 04:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Additions to The List
editAs seen on the list-template at the bottom of Nick Fury TV-movie article, this list is missing entries for:
- Dr. Strange
- Captain America (I & II)
- Generation X
- Man-thing
- as well as the afore-mentioned Nick Fury film (starring none other than David Hasselhoff)
Please can the above be included asap; as I said the Nick Fury page has a navigation-template at it's foot which has links to these already. I will attempt to do some if not all... _> MonstaPro:Talk 12:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- It was decided that all of the above mentioned movies were moved to List of films based on Marvel Comics, so they cannot be here and there. This means that the template has to be changed, but I'm not sure how to handle this. I'll bring up a discussion on that template's talk page. -Joltman 11:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Proposed move to List of television programs based on Marvel Comics
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR (talk) 01:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
List of television series based on Marvel Comics → List of television programs based on Marvel Comics — This move is suggested to bring this list inline with the other lists of media based on media. Currently the naming convention goes with television program for anything that is not a television series article. LA (T) @ 22:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC) — JPG-GR (talk) 05:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Survey
edit- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''
or*'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with~~~~
. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
- Support "programs" is more general and a term I've used elsewhere on similar articles. (Emperor (talk) 14:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC))
- Oppose - per conventions at WP:NC-TV. - jc37 23:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Any additional comments:
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
"Moon Knight (TV series)" redirect?
editWhy is "Moon Knight (TV series)" redirecting here, when there has never been a TV series based on the character and the article doesn't claim otherwise? Surely, it should redir to Moon Knight, yes? 12.233.147.42 (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I come from the future i.e 2021. I assure you that Moon Knight series has been confirmed. AKJ7 (talk) 02:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Need verify current status
editNeed, everybody contributors, verify the current status of "In development" projects. Maybe, will never have a statement of cancellation. http://www.tracking-board.com/abc-president-not-sure-if-john-ridley-marvel-project-is-still-happening/.OscarFercho (talk) 03:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
And what does the Hellfire project there? Was never released, even nor like pilot; that's for the article of First Class movie or other.OscarFercho (talk) 14:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
@Favre1fan93:, @Anythingspossibleforapossible: @Emir of Wikipedia: thougths?
- As I've been stating, we need at least some indication the projects are no longer active to remove them from the table. And we don't have that for Damage Control, the John Ridley series, or Empire of the Dead. The only one that could potentially be removed is the Untitled comedy, as we don't really know what that was in reference too. Hellfire is included further down because it was announced as being developed and then give definitive confirmation it would no longer be moving forward. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:21, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hellfire Club has not reason of stay here.OscarFercho (talk) 00:25, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@Favre1fan93:, now that we know Secret Warriors is Marvel's comedy, I thought having the second untitled comedy was a bit irregular looking to me. I think that could be removed if we don't know what that was referring to (and we already know that Damage Control is a comedy-type, as well). -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 12:22, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Do you mean New Warriors? If yes, the info regarding that's development does not align with the untitled comedy reveal. But as I said before above, because we don't know what it was referring to, I would be fine removing it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, I goofed on that, and meant New Warriors. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 19:43, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Need move it. And Hellfire Club? Why to include an unproduced pilot?OscarFercho (talk) 00:36, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
Rocket and Groot shorts
editWhat are we going to with Rocket and Groot? Because the shorts have their own names, so it'd be a shame to lose out on not covering those in some way. (Same goes for the Ant-Man shorts when they come). --Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 12:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Ant-Man shorts are available after all. Also, I don't know why "2017-" is listed next to Rocket & Groot. I think the dash can be removed, as a source hasn't been given that it's still going. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 19:46, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
No current status
editAgain. What's the goal of maintain projects on status of "Untitled project of..."; and Helffire was never enter in production, what's doing in this list?
Meanwhile, there's a new Marvel streaming project on the works.https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/928741333996486656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fcomicbook.com%2Fstarwars%2F2017%2F11%2F09%2Fstar-wars-television-series-disney-streaming-service%2F OscarFercho (talk) 14:00, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- If Marvel Television (or whatever Marvel branch is involved) is involved with a Star Wars then fine, but this page is specifically supposed to be what Marvel Comics have done for themselves (or from an imprint), not something that Disney brought and Marvel have decided to do comics for. (Or if we do need to include it maybe a new section to reflect that?) -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 14:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Ok. But what whith all "Untitled projects" with no current status; some of its references are of 2014.OscarFercho (talk) 14:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Or Hellfire Club? Was never entered in production.OscarFercho (talk) 14:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- I think you misread (or didn't fully read) the sources Oscar provided. There is a new Marvel show coming to Disney's streaming service. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- It was the first I put on the table.OscarFercho (talk) 14:06, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Ok. But what whith all "Untitled projects" with no current status; some of its references are of 2014.OscarFercho (talk) 14:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Oscar, the one you mentioned is in an unproduced section already, so you answered your own question. If projects don't get anywhere in a year, then perhaps that's the time to put it in the unproduced section. No point trying to push something that's clearly not going anywhere. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 15:27, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
The reference did mention a Marvel show separated from a Star Wars one. I just looked at what the link was saying, which shortened it down to basically "Marvel making Star Wars show." (which in reality, that's just what I was seeing, since Disney owns Marvel and Lucasfilm, so sorry.) -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 15:27, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- But why need a section of unproduced series? Hellfire was never produced, nor pilot or scripts, what do it here?OscarFercho (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- List of television series based on DC Comics has the same and even more than this page, so I don't think there's really a problem (and I bet there's a lot of DC shows that were planned, but never got to a script stage). I guess there is some redundancy in it, but it's what other people think, as well. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 18:53, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Live action tv series
editAdd a colour key for MCU tv series and for series that have been put in after one or more seasons(if any do end up like this) so that the note can removed about them being MCU shortening the length of the list which will become longer as more series get produced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:464E:7400:54CD:1A25:B5D9:F490 (talk) 20:34, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
X-Force animated series coming soon from Marvel Entertainment!
editHey! If you saw the in development section of the Marvel animated series, you'd know there's an upcoming X-Force series based on the Marvel Comics characters. There hasn't been an X-Men-related animated series in years. This is the source: [1]. --The Iron Warrior (talk) 14:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- That reference don't say about a TV adaptation.OscarFercho (talk) 23:44, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
References
Unproduced series
edit@Favre1fan93: Ok, I'm fine with your new criteria, but I think that we must remove too the other projects with not any recent update, a "John Ridley-developed series", what's that?, and a "female-focused series", again, what's that? @Cardei012597: What's your thought about this?
P.D. Can we include the text about more potential series for the upcoming Disney streaming service? Thanks. Regards.OscarFercho (talk) 00:22, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, there hasn't been an official cancelation of any of those series, but I do see your point. It is very likely that Empire of the Dead, along with the John Ridley and female-focused series, are not happening due to their lack of recent development news. If anything, the best compromise would be to label them as projects in development hell, due to the fact of no official word of their cancelation or any recent news. What do you think about my idea OscarFercho? Cardei012597 (talk) 03:19, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think, you has right, You an Me are in the same opinion. Thanks.OscarFercho (talk) 03:37, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Favre1fan93: Can you provide your thoughts?OscarFercho (talk) 03:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- "Development hell" isn't really a term we should be classifying things by on this list. We should stick to keeping them in either "In development" or moving them to "Unproduced". - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Favre1fan93: Can you provide your thoughts?OscarFercho (talk) 03:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Also, I think we should create a page like the List of unproduced DC Comics projects for Marvel Comics, as there are many Marvel films and tv projects that never happened. What do you think? Cardei012597 (talk) 03:42, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think that's not working, might be more, more projects, just talked but never really started. Meanwhile, of John Ridley projec and a "female focused" project has more of a year since the last notice.OscarFercho (talk) 03:46, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
I do think there were many Marvel films and tv shows that went into development but nothing happened, like the John Ridley show and Empire of the Dead. I think it will be beneficial if a page was created for Marvel Comics, if you wish I can start it up and we can fill in the projects. Hell, every DC related wiki page has a sister page for Marvel. My editions on the page like the undeveloped Moon Knight tv series would fit perfectly on a page like this. Maybe, we can create a redirect or a link on this page to a newly created unproduced Marvel prpjects page to better explain what they were. Cardei012597 (talk) 03:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- It seems better, now I see.OscarFercho (talk) 04:34, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
I started up the List of unproduced Marvel Comics projects. I would like it if you could assist in finding other failed Marvel projects to include on the list. Cardei012597 (talk) 05:36, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks, I won't take that call, but what will be the term to consider a project in development status when there's no news, how much time?OscarFercho (talk) 01:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
At least a year, maybe two, of no significant news. Most additions on the list are easily not happening due to the original film bombing in the box office, or another reboot was announced, like any sequel to Fant4stic or Daredevil. Cardei012597 (talk) 02:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- But, for this list?OscarFercho (talk) 03:38, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Oooh, for List of television series based on Marvel Comics, the best thing to do is to move the John Ridley project to unproduced series as its three years old, BUT keep the female focused led series exactly where it is, with the in development, since it is a year old. I think thats fair. Cardei012597 (talk) 04:29, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
@Favre1fan93:@Cardei012597: Hi, there's this new about a female superheroes TV series at ABC, [1]. How to know if is the same "female focused" series announced the past year?OscarFercho (talk) 01:21, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't think we'll find the concrete proof that its the same project, but I'd bet it is the same. I think the philosophy should be that if we don't have concrete proof its the same project, then it should be listed as seperate for now. I am like 99% sure it is the same project, but it really is just an assumption. Cardei012597 (talk) 01:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree with you, but the previously announced "female-focused" show, in what status is now?OscarFercho (talk) 03:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Its only one year old, it can stay for now. Maybe wait 6 months and then if we dont get any definite info on the project, then it can be moved to unproduced series. But for now, it should stay as in development. Cardei012597 (talk) 03:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Favre1fan93:@Cardei012597: How many time need to pass for consider the John Ridley project as unproduced?OscarFercho (talk) 01:27, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey man, if you want to remove it from this page, go ahead. The tv project has been listed on my page List of unproduced Marvel Comics projects for over a month now, so its fine by me. Cardei012597 (talk) 01:33, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think is the most accurate.OscarFercho (talk) 04:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
OscarFercho: I don't think we need the Unproduced series section on this page, as I already have all the shows in that section on my page List of unproduced Marvel Comics projects. Kinda redundant having multiple pages listing unproduced tv shows. Thoughts? Cardei012597 (talk) 05:10, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Cardei012597:Yeah, I'm totally agree.OscarFercho (talk) 01:25, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I'll remove that section. Cardei012597 (talk) 01:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@OscarFercho: In the Marvel Imprints section, there is a show in development called Scarlet. There has been no word on its development since June 2016. I think its safe to say that Scarlet is not in development anymore and should be removed. Thoughts? Cardei012597 (talk) 02:15, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
- Totally agree; remove it.OscarFercho (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@OscarFercho: In the web series, short series section, there is a project Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur that has not had any announcements since February of last year (2018). Do you think its safe to move it to List of unproduced television projects based on Marvel Comics? Cardei012597 (talk) 21:25, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
OscarFercho: In the live action section, there is a tv series that has not had any development news since January 2018, last year, called New Warriors. Should this project be removed and placed under the in limbo/undeveloped Marvel projects? Cardei012597 (talk) 06:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think yes, must be removed. though for now.OscarFercho (talk) 01:43, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- And the unaired pilot of Most Wanted series? Or shouldn't better move to that section the New Warriors filmed pilot?OscarFercho (talk) 03:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Untitled Kingsman series
editOscarFercho, it has been over 12 months since there was any news about the Untitled Kingsman series. Should I move it to Unproduced Marvel TV Series? Cardei012597 (talk) 23:18, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Cardei012597: Yeah, I'm agree, must move.OscarFercho (talk) 00:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Ending source
editWhere is the official source saying that this show is over? Because I looked at the Futon site and it doesn't say anything about the show ending.[1] Lonniemitchell22 (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "MARVEL'S SPIDER-MAN (DISNEY XD)". The Futon Critic. Retrieved July 18, 2017.
Name
editMust we keep the name of this article or need change to someone like "List of television and On Demand series based on Marvel"?
@Favre1fan93: @Cardei012597:, thoughts.OscarFercho (talk) 04:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Personally, I think this page name is fine as it is, simce the On demand series still fall under "television series", as they are all episodes on a television (or at home), rather than full length films. The page name still works for the series filmed material that are not films. Cardei012597 (talk) 04:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Same goes with the List of television series based on DC comics page, as shows produced for the DC Universe streaming service are still considered episodic shows, not films. Cardei012597 (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some like "List of series based on Marvel Commics..."?, clearly not all of the new series are televsion series.OscarFercho (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Name is fine as is, as it covers the medium, not the delivery method. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some like "List of series based on Marvel Commics..."?, clearly not all of the new series are televsion series.OscarFercho (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Series not part of MCU
editAll Marvel Netflix Series such as Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, and Punisher have been confirmed to be not part of the MCU anymore. Other ABC Marvel series such as Agents of Shield, Cloak and Dagger, Helstrom, Inhumans, etc. have also been confirmed to be non canon. AKJ7 (talk) 02:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Please provide a reliable source this has been revealed. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:49, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't know what to do about all these undos, and why they don't want to have discussion on the talk page/provide any wikipedia approved sources. Doremon764 (talk) 03:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Mutant X
editWhy is Mutant X not listed? It is a series created by Marvel. Anonypedia69 (talk) 06:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
I see it is listed under series inspired by marvel comics. Anonypedia69 (talk) 06:04, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Article format
editThis article has 15 different sections on various types of television series. So if you want to see if you're up to date on all the recent/current stuff, or plan for what's coming up soon - and that's the main purpose of this article. If you want to do that, then have to sort through 15 different sections, most of which are filled with tons of old stuff that isn't relevant to what you're trying to check. That takes way longer than it needs to. There should be one section for the old stuff, another section for the recent/current stuff, and a third section for the future stuff. I edited it to work like that, as seen here:
But somebody reverted it. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:6C85:258B:E3BB:FDA9 (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- "If you want to do that, then have to sort through 15 different sections"
- So there's too many sections, and your solution was to make it so there's 3 times as many sections. Hmm.
- Splitting it into "Ended Before 2021" and "2021 To Present" is completely arbitrary. 2021 sort of makes sense for the main live action stuff, but for all the other stuff it's just a completely random year, and it'll make less and less sense to split it there as time goes on, unless you're planning to reorganize the page every year/every few years, which just seems silly.
- I primarily use Wikipedia for the same purpose and the current formatting has never been a problem for me, and personally I strongly prefer it over what you tried to do. Especially since you can sort the tables by the "original airing" to get the newest stuff at the top fairly easily. ShyKen (talk) 13:57, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- With the current version, you have to sort through too many sections to figure out what's current. With my version, you don't have to sort through anything, because everything you want has already been sorted into one place.
- Yes, I intend to reorganize the page every year. (Unless someone else does it first.) Doing that will probably take me less time than it would to sort through 15 sections of mostly irrelevant information every time I want to look at this article. And this way only one person has to do it.
- You're right that it's easy to sort any one table. But with this version you have to do that 15 times, which is absurd. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:154C:E6BF:1316:D37F (talk) 00:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Eh. You're making it sound like it's a massive inconvenience to scroll down and actually look at the page, and it's just, really not. I honestly don't see the problem. I actually find your version harder to work with for any other use case because related things are completely disjointed from each other.
- In any case, the formatting for these list pages seems to be pretty standard across Wikipedia so it's probably not a good idea to randomly reformat just one of them. ShyKen (talk) 07:21, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- You're right that it's easy to sort any one table. But with this version you have to do that 15 times, which is absurd. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:154C:E6BF:1316:D37F (talk) 00:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sorting through 15 sections of mostly irrelevant information every time I want to look at this article isn't a *massive* inconvenience. But it is fairly inconvenient.
- My format is 93% less complicated for the 98% of users who only want to see the recent/current or future episodes, and 200% more complicated for the 2% of users in any other use case. For the average user it's 87% less complicated, which sounds pretty good to me.
- "Other articles are also poorly formatted" is not a justification for continuing to have bad formatting on this article. If anything, it's a justification for reformatting all the articles. And the reformatting isn't random. Especially since this article is especially bad, since Marvel comics may have inspired more television series than anything else. Very few things are probably even close. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:1C8B:F8CF:9DD6:6650 (talk) 01:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Are you really just making up random % numbers to try to prove that you're correct? Seriously?
- I stand by everything I've said, and don't have much else to add at this point. The article is perfectly fine as it is. It serves its purpose, it's actual purpose, to be a list of all the things, not what you seem to think the one and only purpose of the article is. Your suggested changes make this page less useful as a list of all the things and more useful for you specifically (oh sorry, and """"98% of users"""", a very accurate statistic I'm sure). Sucks that it takes an extra 3 seconds to find what you're looking for, but that's a bad reason to mess up the entire page for people who aren't you.
- "If anything, it's a justification for reformatting all the articles"
- Sure is. Good luck with that. ShyKen (talk) 15:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Would you be happier if the page wasn't split into 15 sections? You seem to be really dwelling on that point, even though your suggested changes don't really address that. ShyKen (talk) 15:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Other articles are also poorly formatted" is not a justification for continuing to have bad formatting on this article. If anything, it's a justification for reformatting all the articles. And the reformatting isn't random. Especially since this article is especially bad, since Marvel comics may have inspired more television series than anything else. Very few things are probably even close. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:1C8B:F8CF:9DD6:6650 (talk) 01:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Marvel Action Universe and the Marve Action Hour
editI noticed that neither Marvel Action Universe and The Marvel Action Hour are on the list. Why is that?Sparkles32 (talk) 18:39, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Where are the most recent web shows?
editThere’s no mention of Marvel Avenger’s Mech Strike which is a show currently running on Marvel’s YouTube account. It’s not a clip show in anyway, so it seems like a total failing that it hasn’t been added. I’ve been trying to watch every marvel show ever made, and now I’m wondering what else I have skipped 67.85.13.55 (talk) 00:42, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Most likely a simple case of "nobody knows that it exist". It's not exactly wildly popular, and outside of the actual YouTube channel I can't find anything that references their existence.
- At a glance, the vast majority of the content on the Marvel HQ YouTube channel is just re-edits/re-uploads of existing content, which wouldn't qualify here. But if this Mech Strike series is truly unique content then I guess it should be on here. ShyKen (talk) 03:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- There are a lot of mini-segment type things that are closer to Fury file type of programming but there are also 3 stand alone arcs that are definitely new content, 1 of which is 10 episodes long. The closest I could find to a site with the info was https://marvelanimated.fandom.com/wiki/Avengers:_Mech_Strike_(TV_Series)
- tho even that is missing the 6 part “story time” that was apparently released and concluded in the past few weeks 67.85.13.55 (talk) 08:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC)