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The Definitive Guide to Ottawa's First Settlers (read first before changing)

First of all, it was Collins, and not Ira Honeywell, who was the area's first settler. Collins built his login cabin and store in 1809. Bellows, his assistant would later take over the property. Collins as the builder and in 1809 was determined by 3 authors, at least two of which are often cited, haig, and mika. But other (perhaps less credible sources, including a collection of photographs, and the World Book), differ in exactly who was the first settler... read on. The books "Rideau Waterway" by Legget(p. 252) and "Ottawa Old and New" by Brault(p. 55) state that Bellows built the store and cabin but three other authors all agree that Collins built a store and home, and all agree on the year: Haig 1975, Mika 1982, and Bond 1984(p. 26), and so their writings seems the more likely. Brault states "Bellows (successor to Jehiel Collins) had built a log house, the first erected in Bytown." Mika also states explicitly that "Collins is regarded as the first settler in Nepean Township and, as such, the first inhabitant on the site of the future settlement of Bytown." Haig indicates that Collins also built a dock. The store was to serve "voyageurs who prefer to carry their heavy canoes and loads of furs by the safer, but more tedious wet lands to by-pass the falls. (Haig) Collins names his settlement Collins' Landing. (Haig). Woods 1980 also states "the first person to actually settle in Ottawa was Jehiel Collins, a United Empire Loyalist from Vermont. In 1809 he built a shanty[...] and store at the canoe landing below the Chaudière Falls, an excellent location to catch the 'portage trade' on the south bank of the Ottawa [...] it soon became known as Collins' Landing. A few years later Collins sold out to his clerk Caleb Bellows (a fellow Vermonter)..."(Woods 1980, p33) There seems to be a lot of mention of Ira Honeywell who Haig says "1811 Ira Honeywell is the first to settle in Nepean Township". I'm not sure why Haig even mentions Honeywell, seemingly a little self-contradictory, for it was Haig that stated previously the settling of Collins as Bytown's first settler, and his location south of Chaudière area. Woods 1980 states "In 1810 Ira Honeywell built a house on the Ottawa River, five miles upstream from the Chaudière falls" and that the 1000 acre block of land orginally had been "one of the first land assemblies in the Ottawa area". Mika's other book, Mika 1982 states "In the meantime, Ira Honeywell had built a new house locate on the Richmond Road, and in 1819 he obtained a lease to run a ferry..."(Mika 1982, p. 35) [service to the north side of the river]. And "During the winter of 1810 [...] With the help of Wrightsville inhabitants he proceeded to build a log house overlooking the Deschênes Rapids.(Mika 1982, p. 34). The book "Rideau Waterway" by Legget [which has plenty of errors regarding this period] states "Ira Honeywell had been the original settler, clearing for himself an area on the Ottawa River at Brittania Bay" (Leggett 1986, p. 252). Other sources credit Honeywell as the first settler of either Nepean Township or the area or Bytown, including an essay by Bumsted, 1979, and the World Book Encyclopedia.SunKing2 (talk) 23:01, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

The Algonquins (Algonkins), the Anishnaabe (Anishnabe) and the Odawa (Ottawa) People

Despite a similarity in the name, the Odawa People (also known as Ottawa) were not occupiers of anything anywhere near Ottawa, and they had not even occupied the Ottawa River. Both of those places are the domain of the Algonquins (Also known as the Alogonkins). This whole difference may possibly be immaterial to the Anishnaabe people (the metonym of Algonquin peoples as well as other), because, according to Wikipedia, Anishnaabe include Algonquins as well as the Odawa people. There is not too much writing claiming that the Odawa people were the occupiers of the Ottawa River Valley, however there is writing indicating that they dominated the trade routes of the Ottawa River for a brief period. "The Algonkin(sic) Indians were the original inhabitants of the Ottawa Valley on both sides of the Ottawa River." p1 The Algonkin Tribe, Helssel, Peter Kichesippi Books, Arnprior, 1987, 0-921082-01-0 [or -2 for paperback]. "Their domain for thousands of years before Europeans arrived in north America was a vast territory that stretched from the present city of Montreal almost ot Lake Nipissing, from the Rideau Lakes to the headwaters of the Ottawa River. [n/p] This might river, the Ottawa Valley and the City of Ottawa now all bear the name of the Ottawa Indians, a tribe that never lived in the area but near Georgian Bay. Some traders of the Ottawa tribe used the river as a trade route for bout five years following the temporary displacement of the Algonkins by teh Iroquois in the mid 17th century. Prior to the 1650's, the historic river was called Kichesippi (Kije-sibi) by the Algonkins and Grand Rivière des Algoumequins(sic) (Grand River of the Algonkins) by the French"[Hessel 1987,p1] Hessel 1987:"It is important to understand the term Algonkin, for it is often confused - even by some historians - with the term Algonkian. The Algonkins are one of many Algonkian tribes in Canada and the United States. They were named, for reasons not entirely clear, by the first European who recorded contact with them in the year 1603 - the French Explorer Samuel de Champlain. Long after Champlain, linguists decided to call other tribes whose language resembled that spoke by the Algonkins, the "Algonkian family of languages" " [Hessel, 1987, p 2] May 27, 1603, Champlain wrote of the Algonkin people, and June 9 of that year he met them at Tadoussac where a great feast was held. (Hessel, 1987, p.11.) "both words are often spelled with a "qu" instead of "k" and pronounced as in quintet." The word is not of Algonkin origin so "none [of the name of the peoples] makes sense to native Algonkin-speakers today." (At the time of Hessel's book, there was no standardization of the spelling of "Algonkin/Algonquin" and "Algonkian/Algonquian". (Hessel, 1987) "Morrison Island has evidence of "Algonkian(sic) people lived there about 1,000 years ago. Nothing is known yet about the circumstances under which the Ottawa River and its tributaries were taken over by the ancestors of the Algonkins who had in earler times lived further north and west". (p 9, Hessel, 1987). "It is known from early written records that by 1613 the Algonkins were in control of the Ottawa Valley and the surrounding areas to the west and north. It is possible that they and their ancestors have lived along the Ottawa for a few thousand years. [n/p] It is unfortunate that the Ottawa River - and the city which became Canada's capital - are today known not for the Algonkins who were firmly established here but for the Ottawa Indians wh had no roots in this area at all. The Ottawans lived far to the west along Georgian Bay and Lake Huron, and they traded on this river for only a very short time after the Algonkins had been driven away by Iroquois raiding parties" (p.10, Hessel, 1987). "At the beginning of the 17th Century the Algonkins occupied an area that reached roughly from the present day Algonquin Park to the St. Maurice River, from the Upper Madawaska Valley in Ontario to the headwaters of the Ottawa River in Quebec. Most of this territory, more than 150,000 square kilometres, was within the Canadian Shield..." (Hessel, 1987, p14). "On July3, 1603, [at Lachine Rapids, Champlain first learned of the Ottawa River] they decided to proceed no furtherand??. They asked the Indian acoompanying them to draw a map of the country to the west. For the first time Champlain learned of the river which the Indians called the Great River of the Algonkins: He told us that past the (Lachine) Rapids is a river which leads to where the Algoumequens(sic) dwell" (Biggar, Vol1, p. 162, as cited by Hessel, 1987) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SunKing2 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

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