Talk:Discworld (video game)

Trivia section

• The easter eggs, if expanded, should be moved to an "Easter egg" section. See Discworld_2#Easter_eggs for an example.
• The details about the voice talents could be also expanded and integrated.
• The name_while_in_development is only marginally relevant. The cameo appeareance should me moved to the main body of the article. --W2bh 22:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• Question: Can someone explain me that easter egg about Nanny Oggs sheep behind her house? A double klick does nothing on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.6.207.25 (talk) 00:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Making Terry Pratchett a Featured Article

This is a call to arms to make the Terry Pratchett article a Featured Article. It will greatly help the cause if all the side articles that link from it are of a reasonable standard. Terry Pratchett has around 40 side articles (ie the ones relating to his work) - I don't think they are all expected to be GA (Good Article) standard for TP to become featured, but certain basic elements will be looked at for sure.

A full list of the sub articles is here on the TP talk page: I'm posting this comment on the talk pages of each article on the list. Editors reading may also like to help with the TP article too?

The main issue, especially with smaller articles, is often a finding reasonable amount of citations, and prose can sometimes be a little POV too. Coverage of the topic is probably less important, but of course it needs to be reasonably good. --Matt Lewis (talk) 15:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Ideas and themes

I've added a "fact" annotation to this section. According to the text John Cleese seized the opportunity to become “the first person ever at a British memorial service to say 'fuck' . Having seen a film of the funeral, I distinctly remember Eric being the one to deliver this line, and this makes more sense in the context of this article. (John's speech was both moving and shocking, which is why the mix up may have occurred). That said, I don't have a reference to verify this.

Both John and Eric said 'fuck', with John indeed being "the first person ever at a British memorial service to say 'fuck'". Near the end of the memorial Eric announced his wish to be the last person to say 'fuck' in the service. At present there is a clip on Youtube showing both occurrences: Graham Chapman's Memorial Service. I will add it to the references. Jedku (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I stand correctedStormCloud (talk) 09:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Freikorp (talk · contribs) 03:53, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I'll take this one. Don't feel obligated but I have a video-game GAN as well if you're interested. Freikorp (talk) 03:53, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   I'd introduce Ankh-Morpork in the lead as a fictional city-state.

   Since there's no wikilinks for "The Broken Drum, and the Shades", I'd give them a brief description is you want to keep them. Same issue for "Dark Wood, the Mines, and the Edge of the World".

   "Items can either be examined or used" - this makes it sound like the player has to choose one or the other. Would it be more accurate to drop the word "either"?

   "including a sword that goes 'ting'" - what's the context here? Could you simplify this just to say he finds a sword?

   I'd merge the last two paragraphs in the 'Development' section, but up to you.

   Consider using the ILL template to link to the French magazine Joypad. I.e Joypad, same story with Génération 4

   "believed that the graphics are colourful and liked the humour, but criticised the way the dialogue is handled" - do you think this would work better as past tense?

   "unwieldy nature of the game" - I'd drop "of the game"

   "Discworld commits every point-and-click crime you'd care to mention" - an example of one of these crimes would be of interest

   "in Dragon #223 by David "Zeb" Cook in the final "Eye of the Monitor" column" - I really don't see a need to specify the issue number or the name of the column in the prose.

   "Entertainment Weekly's Darren Franich" - I'd specify what year this occurred, since it is a significant amount of time since the game was released.

   I don't see the point of a one-sentence Legacy section; I'd merge this sentence into the final paragraph of Reception

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail: On hold until relatively minor issues are addressed. Well done overall. Freikorp (talk) 04:27, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Freikorp:

• "including a sword that goes 'ting'" - what's the context here? Could you simplify this just to say he finds a sword? I'm not sure: the sword has to go "ting". Rincewind does find a sword, but it must be tuned, so just saying he finds a sword may not be enough.
• Consider using the ILL template to link to the French magazine Joypad. I.e Joypad, same story with Génération 4 Hmm... I never knew about that template before. I'm not sure what the point is if it's highly unlikely ther'll ever be an English article.

I only found out about it recently myself. I think it's pretty nifty, but no worries if you don't think pages will ever be made for those articles in English. Freikorp (talk) 08:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

• I hope there's no original research in the development section: The Simon the Sorcerer sources do say they tried to do Discworld and that it was inspired by it, and the Discworld source does say that many publishers had tried to obtain Discworld licences before, but neither explicitly say that AdventureSoft was one of those companies. Is that WP:SYNTH, or is it okay? Adam9007 (talk) 04:33, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Since AdventureSoft published Simon the Sorcerer if their people say they tried to do Discworld first I think that's a reasonable assumption to leap to. Thanks for being honest about it. I'm happy for this to pass now. Freikorp (talk) 08:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

John Cleese saying that he did not do games

It says "John Cleese was his first choice for Rincewind, but he rejected the offer saying that he did not do games." which contradicts the John Cleese page where it shows he voiced quite a few videogames even during those years. A backing inline cite or a clarification would help. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:38, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ugog Nizdast: It's what the Retro Gamer History of Discworld article says, but I shall double-check to make 110% sure when I get a chance. Adam9007 (talk) 18:13, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ugog Nizdast: Yep, according to the source, Gregg Barnett said that John Cleese said he didn't do games. Adam9007 (talk) 22:06, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your time and effort. Not surprised that the source is right, and I think this calls for some discretion here. Consider:

• Looks like he did voice videogames, that too his first one in 1994 - around this game's year. This makes him saying that contradictory: (1) either the source is may have got it slightly wrong, i.e his reason for declination or (2) he, in fact, did say that for whatever reason.
• For either (1) or (2), I think stating it like this would be confusing to a reader, I myself, reached here like this. I knew a little about Cleese and was surprised about his reason stated here, only to find that he did voice other games.
• My solution is simple: just state that "he declined.", nothing changed here in terms of factually accuracy, just omitted a doubtful and confusing detail. For both cases (1) and (2), this would do good but I guess case (2) makes the situation more muddled up.
• I recall when I was working on one article, a number of good respectable sources got a minor fact like this wrong and we knew it to be otherwise. In that setup though, I was lucky enough to find a decent source just stating that minor fact so I could warrant its correction in the article.

This reminds me of Verifiability, not truth versus Truth, not verifiability. I leave you to decide. Further dwelling on this seems like I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Saturn mouse support?

@Martin IIIa: I've checked the source again, and "マウス対応" definitely means that the mouse is supported, not that it isn't supported. Shouldn't we go by what the reliable source says? It's entirely possible that it only applies to the Japanese version, but I can't check as I don't have the Saturn version (Japanese or PAL). But even if I could, it would constitute WP:OR. The Saturn version being mouse-compatible is supported by a reliable source, so any editor would be able to justify inserting that information and citing it to that source, especially in the absence of any source that contradicts it. Adam9007 (talk) 19:45, 1 January 2018 (UTC)