Talk:List of counties in Delaware

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Some helpful information on U.S. county lists can be found at WP:COUNTYLISTS. Tompw (talk) (review) 16:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

FL Nomination

The reason why this article its FL nomination was that the consensus was that this article isn't really a list (at just three items). As it's not a list, it's eligable for GA status. 20:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Nomination

This article has failed the following GA criteria:

• 1b - The lead is not a summary of the article and it is much to long for an article of this length. Currently, the lead is almost all of the article, which causes it to also fail based on layout, or lack thereof. It also does not include a bold title. Wikilinks are also improperly done.
• 2a - References are not consistent in their formatting. WP:CITE details how to cite material and what information should be included. References should also appear after punctuation with no space.* For example, where the "*" appears at the end of the previous sentence, with no additional punctuation following.
• 3a - The article is not broad in coverage, I don't feel. The article doesn't give me that much information past origins and name changes.

If you feel this decision was made in error, you make seek remediation at WP:GA/R. Once issues have been addressed and it is felt that the article meets all of the GA criteria, the article may be renominated at WP:GAC. Regards, LaraLove^T/_C 05:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

2nd GA Nomination

diff since last GA nomination. Tompw (talk) (review) 16:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I've passed this. It's a bit skinny, but I can't really think of what should go in here, aside from a bigger recap of the different counties in prose form. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Epbr123 20:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Featured List

I am pretty sure lists can not be Good articles. There is now a featured list project for high quality lists. AIRcorn (talk) 23:58, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that it was considered too short to be a list. Do, despite the name, it's not a list, and hence can be a GA. Tompw (talk) (review) 15:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:List of counties in Delaware/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article is being delisted because it is a list and lists can not be Good articles. It is being prepared for a run at Featured list candidates. AIRcorn (talk) 03:55, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Undone. This list, perhaps ironically, cannot be a Featured List. Their criteria requires a certain number of topics (counties) to be eligible; three certainly is not enough. Wizardman 17:18, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

But unfortunately the Good article criteria specifically says a list can not be a Good article (under What can not be a good article?"Stand-alone lists, portals, sounds, and images: these items should be nominated for featured list, featured portal, featured sounds, and featured picture status, respectively"). For what its worth I did ask at the Featured List talk page whether there was a minimum limit to the number of items on a list and didn't really get a straight answer. The comments seemed to be suggesting that it should be merged into the Delaware article and I was going to put some merge tags on it, but the main contributor wanted to have a shot at featured list. Can you point out where their criteria asks for more than three items as I could not find it. I think we need to decide whether this is a list or an article. If it is an article we should move it to Delaware Counties or Counties in Delaware. If it is kept as a list then it can't be a Good article or we need to change the criteria. AIRcorn (talk) 21:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Can you give a good working definition of what a "stand-alone list" is, and how this article meets that definition? Jujutacular (talk) 16:40, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Is it an article with an embedded list or a list with a lot of prose? I have seen this asked a few times and I still don't know if anyone has given a good answer (will try and find the discussions). Television series are a good example, where some are given list status and some are given article status, seemingly based on the whim of the main editors. I think the case here is slightly different and considering all the other articles in this group are undoubtedly lists then I would say that this one should be considered a list as well. As far as my working definition goes I would say that in a standalone list the topic of the article is the list itself. In an embedded list the list just compliments the topic. To test it I would ask what would happen if the list was removed? Would the article still make sense without it? I don't think numbers should really be used as it seems quite arbitrary (where do you draw the line)? Saying that it is possible to turn a list into an article with a slight change of focus. The title will need to be changed obviously, but the County lists could be converted to summary style overviews of the three counties (Kent County, Delaware, New Castle County, Delaware or Sussex County, Delaware). The list can still stay as an overview, but if it is removed the article still stands with the summary style descriptions. AIRcorn (talk) 23:49, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

County government in the United States

Hello, Delaware! To defuse the edit war that has started at Category:County government in the United States, I'd appreciate some additional input on the topic of whether U.S. counties are (1) a level of local government or (2) an arm of state government. Discussion thus far is on my User talk page at User_talk:Orlady#County_government, but we could move it to a content-oriented talk page if desired. --Orlady (talk) 00:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello DE. I don't know why Orlady is bothering you with this, as it has no impact on any Delaware articles. However, if you are interested....I am the other side of the edit war. My claim is that although county officials may be elected or appointed locally (i.e. not statewide), the actual county government itself is an arm of the state government. This is consistent with the powers they exercise (elections, law enforcement, etc.). If we could have some academically informed input, I would appreciate it, because the general impression and intuition that people have is that county government is "local government," but to those who actually study political science formally, the difference is known. The compromise that I propose is the persons should be categorized under "local politicians" while the offices should be categorized under "state government." Greg Bard (talk) 8:39 pm, Today (UTC−4)

I have posted this issue to WikiProject United States, and WikiProject Politics. Please take your input to one or the other so I don't have to have 50 discussions. Greg Bard (talk) 01:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Gregbard started discussion of this matter at User_talk:Orlady#County_government. Please don't start a whole new discussion at some WikiProject page. If there is a desire to move the discussion, let's copy the pre-existing discussion to the new location. --Orlady (talk) 02:32, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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Discrepancies

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the two (out of three, yes, just three) counties that have areas listed are NOT the same as the two (again, need I remind you that there are only three counties in Delaware) that have populations listed? Ian9113 (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)