Talk:Charles Lloyd (Australian general)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: AustralianRupert (talk · contribs) 10:52, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Comments: Overall, this looks pretty good to me. I have the following suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 11:49, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

• the image appears to be properly licenced;
• external links all work; there are no dabs;
• I wonder if the article shouldn't be renamed as "Charles Lloyd (Australian general)" or similar;
• "Army Headquarters from 1938 to 1939": was this in Melbourne?
• "Rising from major to major general in less than two-and-a-half years, he became the youngest general officer in the Australian Army": possibly a good idea here to clarify how old he in fact was;
• "as a regular officer in the artillery": link Royal Australian Artillery here
• "he transferred to the reserve in February": probably best to clarify that this was an inactive role. The Reserve of Officers was more like a standby force, than an active force, I believe;
• overall, it seems that this summary is relatively comprehensive, reflecting the very limited coverage the subject seems to have (despite his reputation). The National Archives have some information that might be pertinent, though: [1], particularly his early career (pp. 5-6):
  • Lloyd was appointed to the Australian Imperial Force in December 1918, embarked Sydney in Jan 1919, and sent to the UK
  • AIF commission terminated, returned to PMF for artillery course in 1919 in UK and India
  • throughout the 1920 and early 1930s he served in various adjutant and quartermaster roles at battery and brigade level in the 2nd and 3rd Military Districts assigned to various artillery units within the 1st, 2nd, 7th and 8th Bdes
• the subject's burial at Karrakatta Cemetery is mentioned in the infobox, but not the body of the article

• G'day Rupert. Thanks for having a look over this - some very good points (esp the National Archives source, I'd forgotten about that). Hopefully I've addressed these all now. Anotherclown (talk) 10:59, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

• G'day, no worries. I made a couple more tweaks, but overall it looks pretty good to me and I believe that it meets the GA criteria. If you are thinking of taking the article to A-class, you might be able to find some more information in Trove from newspaper articles, although I looked and couldn't find much. I wonder also if potentially he might be mentioned in Horner's Crisis of Command or High Command, but I don't have those works to hand currently. Also a left-aligned image in the body of the text would work well, too, I believe. Potentially this one from the AWM (of Morshead and Lloyd in Tobruk): [2] Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

I forgot I had both Crisis of Command and High Command on my shelf. He does get some coverage actually, most of it in passing, but there is some good stuff on Java which I've added. Also a bit on Stantke which I added there. Thanks for catching all these, sorry I missed these. Anotherclown (talk) 00:20, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Criteria

• It is reasonably well written.

  a (prose): b (MoS):

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

• It is broad in its coverage.

  a (major aspects): b (focused):

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

  a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

• It is stable.

  No edit wars etc.:

• It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

  a (tagged and captioned): b (Is illustrated with appropriate images): c (non-free images have fair use rationales): d public domain pictures appropriately demonstrate why they are public domain:

• Overall:

  a Pass/Fail: