Talk:Australian Kelpie
This article is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party)) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
Australian Kelpie was a good article, but it was removed from the list as it no longer met the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. Review: November 12, 2006. |
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Working vs Non-working
editThe Kelpie breed is currently split into "Working" and "Show". The "Show" Kelpie is bred for a limited range of colours and other conformations and usually wouldn't know what to do with a sheep. The "Working" Kelpie is bred for working ability, working ability and working ability, with colours and conformation a very unimportant consideration.
The term "Australian" is used as a general (and redundant) adjective for the breed name as noted above in "Name of Article". Gordon | Talk, 17 April 2006 @05:50 UTC
Appearance
editWe don't have "Ranchers" in Australia, I've changed it to "stockmen" as this more accurately reflects the people who would use herding dogs generally, and Kelpies especially.
Ummm... No, Kelpies don't usually have double coats. They used to, but somehow they just changed.
The sizes and weights given here are a bit on the large side. 30Kg is very much in the German Shepherd class! Better numbers would be (Working Keplies!) 50cm at the withers for females, 55cm for males; weight would be between 14-21Kg. Gordon | Talk, 17 April 2006 @ 06:24 UTC
Not descended from dingoes
editA new study has found no detectable dingo DNA.[1][2] This section needs to be rewritten. Rather than being bold and simply removing it all, there should be consensus on what to add. It may be worth noting there was a long standing belief that kelpies were partly descended from dingoes but that has been disproven. DigitalPanda (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- Little to discuss. The entire paragraph before my recent edit (Chew 2019) should be axed. Part of it is based on an ABC website report about a shearer's book and that author's claims, and the rest based on a no-author-provided website that is now in archive. Neither are WP:RELIABLE sources. William Harris • (talk) • 08:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- Nice work DigitalPanda - another of the many dog myths laid to rest. If other editors have any issues I am happy to discuss. William Harris • (talk) • 08:35, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Minor contradiction with "Collie" article
editThis article states that the ancestral Collie dogs are so-called because of their coal-black colour (with two sources, including Etymonline.org. However the "Collie" article claims the root of the word to lie in a Scots word meaning "useful". 82.47.180.156 (talk) 09:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC)