Talk:2020–2021 Armenian protests

Opposition

There are 17 parties, only one of which is not extra parliamentary. Also, they met with military and prez. 37.186.118.60 (talk) 14:52, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Infobox text merging into show more

Self explanatory, could someone fix this? Flalf^Talk 14:57, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

@Flalf: Done. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 15:12, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Leaders infobox

Do these protests have some specific figures leading them? I suggest that someone who is up to date on this matter add the leaders in the infobox.Elserbio00 (talk) 21:49, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

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I have a few pictures and videos on my phone from November 10th to before December 6th. No idea how to upload it.2A02:2A57:173D:0:3C22:E327:9689:F0F2 (talk) 16:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

You can upload them to Commons here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard — CuriousGolden (T·C) 16:53, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Source updates

Opposition parties: https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/armenias-17-opposition-parties-plan-to-hold-1081818.html

For the pre-22nd December: https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2020/12/17/anti-Pashinyan-rally/2422066 https://news.am/eng/news/615042.html https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2020/12/14/protest-Pashinyan-resignation/2419877 https://clarion.causeaction.com/2020/12/11/armenians-storm-capital-demanding-pm-resign-after-azerbaijan-victory-parade/ https://mirrorspectator.com/2020/12/10/opposition-protests-resume-as-pashinyan-ignores-ultimatum-to-resign/ https://massispost.com/2020/12/pm-pashinyan-opposition-forces-trying-to-create-anarchy-in-armenia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2A57:173D:0:3C22:E327:9689:F0F2 (talk) 17:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

General strike 22nd December: https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2020/12/21/YSMU-strike/2424222?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=1eb496b978ef1d2e59914d1cc13fab8539995261-1608914665-0-ARr_EwYy-kKPvaiNxeKmWsXXPDKHtXeTgxbQdfiIpT4sbSo0g0gioggsw67OMNrHxs7oZgPrjezZ89ntRE1qjlgaH8po_yCQH7CVvxqe2vKL8E6PXpqwU58yw7JoE7tqaPsQ-S1MJOvm6iL-KMY15Sj736ADYsxpw9iLCqSVmzO8v0FycUIP6PI4qd4IwzcT7mrNmwkddwZItjdTFfpA-8ZWoWeaiO8YLSpJ2qUeKkB-8uTtBA01mBkC8pqa6o-mqZFOPAyW7L6eCgtB9-Hn22F7wZni2qaINCS981qwUuXnZsi2kWlVllxMu410JJc7T65IBMaUXsBAAZ6IJovWEb9CnotsbG-VBhl2566p_e3H https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/711681.html https://hetq.am/en/article/125635 https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2020/12/24/protests-resignation-sit-down-strikes/2426313 https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Dozens-detained-in-Armenia-during-anti-government-15826569.php https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Dozens-detained-in-Armenia-during-anti-government-15826569.php https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2020/12/25/protests-Pashinyan-resignation/2427076 (today). https://www.msn.com/en-xl/europe/top-stories/armenian-opposition-sets-up-protest-tents-to-pile-pressure-on-pm/ar-BB1c9KT4

There is much more. Gotta back to work and grab dinner. Its been going on all week. Just a few days ago this cop car was stationed just below me blaring in his bullhorn every 15 minutes or so. Everyday I've been hearing the noises and sirens.2A02:2A57:173D:0:3C22:E327:9689:F0F2 (talk) 17:01, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Causes

Why is governemnt misshandling of covid pandemic part of the causes? The rest of the article doesn't indicate this im any way 2A02:3038:10:7E9F:1:2:5FCA:8580 (talk) 10:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Merge

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge, on the grounds that pages are sufficiently developed (or growing) in a way that warrants separate coverage; acceptance that the topics are linked, but that a merge would be impractical and unhelpful for readers; causes of protests may differ between years. Klbrain (talk) 12:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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2020–2021 Armenian protests, 2022 Armenian protests and 2023 Armenian protests are all about the same thing: protests against Pashinyan for giving up Nagorno-Karabakh. Particularly the 2022 and 2023 articles are short and uneventful. I propose a merge into one single article, it could be titled 2020–2023 Armenian protests, Protests in Armenia against Nikol Pashinyan, Protests in Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh or some other better variation. This article is the longest so it could be the target of the other two's info. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

• Strong oppose- not only will it be a logistical nightmare to differentiate almost four years worth of protests, the proposed merge will likely lead to an overly long and clunky article (WP:NOTMERGE) which would not serve as an improvement to the overall readability or comprehension of the events (especially when discussing loaded topics like war, coups, elections, civil unrest, ceasefire agreements, strikes, and so on). "Protests against Pashinyan" is a rudimentary analysis of these evets. To generalize them all together would be a mistake and possibly give the reader false impressions, or at the very least, confuse them. Further, the protests have been organized by different actors, individuals, and political parties; with some participating in all, and others in one or two- with their goals not all being the same. Lumping them all together in one overarching article seems convoluted to me. Archives908 (talk) 02:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - While I agree with nom that they are connected with Pashinyan and Nagorno-Karabakh and that the causes/goals are all related to one another, I also agree with above that the resulting merged article would become hard to understand for readers, with the yearlong break between these events making them pretty distinct (especially the 2023 protests). Yeoutie (talk) 11:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppose - It would be a bad idea to merge these because they all have different start causes and they have all lasted for various amounts of time and their only common goal was to get Prime Minister Pashiyin to Resign. If we were to go with the 2020-2023 Armenian protests, how does it explain the nearly 30-40 months without any substantial protests? Kingllama100 (talk) 00:58, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. they all have different specific contexts that caused them/participating actors/dates/etc, and it would just make it way too bulky and complicated. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 22:04, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose - as they have different causes and are not on the same scale. The 2020-2021 protests were during COVID-19, but I would be open to merging just the 2022 & 2023 protests which were about the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.