Talk:Émile Cohl

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Image copyright problem with Image:Fantasmagorie.GIF

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The image Image:Fantasmagorie.GIF is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
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This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --03:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. Fantasmagorie is PD in the US (published in 1908). It will be PD in France next January, and can be moved to Commons at that point. --dave pape (talk) 14:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Copyright violation?

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

A lot of the article text seems to come from the official site www.emilecohl.com. However, that site no longer works. This Blogger page seems to have a copy of the full official bio (sourced from the website) and the texts generally match (aside from additions and reorganizations of material). Coinmanj (talk) 23:40, 29 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Coinmanj: I think the Blogger page may actually have been copied from the Wikipedia page, rather than the other way around. On the Blogger page, you can see the Wikipedia subheadings: End of the Hydropathes, Death of André Gill, Motion pictures, etc. It gets sloppy towards the bottom, with a couple of [edit] tags left in the Blogger page: "[edit] World War I" and "[edit] References". More than 50% of the Wikipedia page was written on Sept 29, 2003 and did not include those subheadings; the subheadings were added on Sept 11, 2006 by a different editor. The Blogger page was posted in April 2008.

As you say, emilecohl.com no longer exists, and unfortunately it required a dead Flash plugin; the the Wayback Machine versions can't be read — but I suspect that the text on the Blogger page copied by emilecohl.com is just the first paragraph. If you look closely at the Blogger page, it gives a link for the emilecohl page, and then follows with one paragraph of text, presumably copied from that site. Immediately below that, the text starts over again with the typical Wikipedia opening: "Émile Cohl (January 4, 1857 – January 20, 1938), born Émile Eugène Jean Louis Courtet, was a French caricaturist of the largely-forgotten Incoherent Movement..."

Because of this, I think that the copyright issue goes the other way — that the Blogger post was copied from both emilecohl.com and the Wikipedia article. I'm going to take the "non-free" tag off of the article. Please let me know if you have any thoughts. — Toughpigs (talk) 16:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

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