MediaWiki talk:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning

Protected edit request on 18 December 2017

As per meta:Editing/Publish...might be best to update the wording here to match new button.

Current

By saving changes, you agree to...

Proposed change

By publishing changes, you agree to.... Moxy (talk) 02:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

 On hold @Mpaulson (WMF): please confirm from WMF that this is OK. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Please also note, this is the localized version of this message for the English Wikipedia. The mediawiki default message currently says:

By saving changes, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license.. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:32, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Changes to the default for all projects will require a global update. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Michelle Paulson nio longer works for the WMF, I believe — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

See also phabricator.T131132 --Moxy (talk) 03:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

@Mdennis (WMF): please review both this change request and Michelle Paulson's status. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Maggie Dennis is aware of this and asked me to look further into it. Michelle Paulson indeed is no longer working for the foundation. --CSteigenberger (WMF) (talk) 14:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Xaoxflux, Legal didn't object to this proposed change. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 19:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 June 2018

Change the following

under the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License|CC BY-SA 3.0 License]] and the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GFDL]].

to

under the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License|CC BY-SA 3.0]] and the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GFDL]] licenses.

Since both CC BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL are licensees, it seems highly questionable to only say "license" after the first and not the second license. Neither "CC BY-SA 3.0" nor " CC BY-SA 3.0 License" is the license full name, so it doesn't have any legal difference. (t) Josve05a (c) 21:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Also remove the unnecessary underscores in the wikilinks (_). (t) Josve05a (c) 22:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

The underscores are not an issue, and might even be useful for some ancients browsers. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:45, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done @Josve05a: however feel free to follow up with WMF legal, this is the local copy of what is normally a global statement. I suspect the term is like that because the L in the legacy GFDL already stands for license, while the normal abbreviation "CC BY-SA 3.0" would not be as obvious. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 June 2019

Please change

By publishing changes, you agree to the [[wmf:Terms_of_Use|Terms of Use]], and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution

to

By publishing changes, you agree to the [[wmf:Terms_of_Use|Terms of Use]], and you irrevocably agree to release your contributions

(contribution -> contributions). This is so that the sentence structure maintains parallelism. While a single contribution can include multiple individual "changes", it is only 1 change to the page as a whole, so an alternative is to change "changes" to "a change". Either way, they should either be both singular or both plural. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 10:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: this is certainly a legalese question, but my reading is that this is related to the current edit, which may have one or more "changes" to the page contained in "this contribution" - and certainly that you are not agreeing to do things about past or future contributions. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: I left a note at User talk:Mdennis (WMF), and it would also make sense to change it to "publishing your change" to mirror the current "your contribution" --DannyS712 (talk) 11:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: I think some of it arose from the labeling that WMF decided to use for the actual button ("Publish changes") that is clicked as well. But this is really up to them and it likely will not be English Wikipedia specific. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:24, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Okay. Thanks anyway, --DannyS712 (talk) 11:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

•  On hold pending WMF response. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi all. Maggie brought this to my attention since it’s a question about how the licenses work on Wiki. I took a look at the proposed change, and while I do see the standard verb agreement concern, in this case, the use of a plural or singular would not make a difference (either to “changes” or “contribution”) because the creative work that’s being referenced as being licensed is adequately clear regardless of which terms are plural, which means it's also legally effective regardless. This means we don't see a need to put through a change specifically to adjust this, although I can certainly make a note of the verb agreement for the next time that we need to update the licensing language. -Jrogers (WMF) (talk) 20:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done per above. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 21 June 2021

Change wmf:Terms_of_Use to wmf:Temrs_of_Use/en, as the first terms of use without en prefix redirects to the latter page, so it would be better to have it redirect to the actual target page. 54nd60x (talk) 01:57, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done they have something wrong with their translatable page over there, but they should fix it over there so that this works regardless of the interface language selected by our readers. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 29 July 2023

In 2012 the text "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted." was removed as it was already included in the native heading for the 2010 Wikitext editor, per MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn.

With the growth in usage of the 2017 wikitext and visual editors there is now no reminder to not add content that constitutes copyright infringement. There is sufficient space and, in light of the huge amount of copyright violation reports, primarily caused by inexperienced new users, I propose the aforementioned line is added back to the end, providing a link to copyright advice and helping remind new users that content must be sutiable for inclusion.

• Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. – Isochrone (T) 17:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

   Not done First off, this is one of the most visible messages on the project, and has a scary edit notice saying "Do not edit it without clearing any potential changes through WMF legal counsel. Administrators should contact legal@wikimedia.org once they're ready to make a change, and permission will be granted if the change is safe.", which means I don't feel comfortable doing this just on the basis of a month-old edit request on an obscure page without broader discussion (that none of the other admins watching this queue have responded to).

  Second off, I'm not even convinced this is a good idea or useful - users of the editors in question don't even see this message until they have already composed their edit and hit publish, by which point it's almost certainly too late. It feels like your problem would be better addressed by filing a task on phabricator asking to add a copyright warning earlier in the process than hacking around it here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 6 April 2024

Please replace this with {{int:wikimedia-copyrightwarning}} (the latter is a parser function that automatically internationalizes based on language) or delete this message since it is not used on Wikipedia, in a similar manner that MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-ipblocked is used instead of MediaWiki:Globalblocking-ipblocked. Awesome Aasim 16:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning is already a transclusion of MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning. I see no reason to do anything here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:45, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery: I believe the idea of using '{{int:MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning}}' instead of '{{MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning}}' is to allow language translations to also work. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 13:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Is this actually displayed anywhere, though? While I generally dislike the idea of supporting foreign user interface languages on enwiki I would be willing to implement this if someone could point to somewhere where it makes a difference. Otherwise it's just doubly trivial fiddling around. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

When you edit a Wikipedia page, you agree to license your contribution. The copyright warning appears directly above the 'publish changes' (MediaWiki:Publishchanges) button on the editing page. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning is displayed there. My question is whether the content of the non-prefied MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning ever matters, or is this entire section a waste of time? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)