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Charge of the Carthaginian war elephants as envisaged by Gaston Bussière in 1920. The Battle of the Bagradas River was fought in 240 BC in what is now north-east Tunisia between a Carthaginian army led by Hamilcar Barca and a rebel force led by Spendius. Carthage was fighting a coalition of mutinous soldiers and rebellious African cities in the Mercenary War, which had started late the previous year in the wake of the First Punic War. Hamilcar left Carthage and evaded a rebel blockade by crossing the Bagradas River (the modern Medjerda River) at its mouth. Two rebel armies marched towards the Carthaginians. When they came into sight Hamilcar ordered a feigned retreat. The rebels broke ranks to chase the Carthaginians and this impetuous pursuit caused them to fall into disorder. Once the rebels had closed, the Carthaginians turned and charged them. The rebels broke and were routed. The Carthaginians pursued, killing or capturing many of the rebels and taking a bridge over the Bagradas. This victory gave Hamilcar freedom to manoeuvre and the operational initiative. (This article* is part of a featured topic: Mercenary War.)* Recently featured: SMS Niobe American Writers 1271 Avenue of the Americas Archive By email More featured articles About view – talk – edit – history – watch
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1946 Nankaidō earthquake

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Pls consider including 1946 Nankaidō earthquake. --74.13.130.52 (talk) 05:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

2011 notes

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): It's a Wonderful Life, American Airlines Flight 965
Swapped out: Confederate States of America, Cheka (moved to Ineligible), Cardiff, MV Doña Paz
Swapped in: Flying Tigers (first appearance), United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (first appearance; was previously Ineligible), Macau (7th appearance, last in 2009; was previously Ineligible), Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District (first appearance)
Left in: Luis Carrero Blanco (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total)

--howcheng {chat} 19:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): United States invasion of Panama
Omitted: Flying Tigers (ineligible—maintenance); Luis Carrero Blanco (ineligible—maintenance); United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances; Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Included: Confederate States of America (3rd appearance, last in 2010); It's a Wonderful Life (first appearance); Cardiff (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Portrait of Suzanne Bloch (first appearance)
Repeats: Macau (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes

Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Omitted: It's a Wonderful Life; Macau; Portrait of Suzanne Bloch
Included: Zodiac Killer (first appearance); United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 25th anniversary); Implementation Force (4th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Cardiff (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Confederate States of America

Please excuse me if I am posting this on the wrong talk page.

On the Main Page today, the blurb for this anniversary is

1860 – South Carolina became the first of eleven slave states to secede from the United States, leading to the eventual creation of the Confederate States of America and later the American Civil War.

Doesn't this imply, misleadingly, that the Confederate states seceded chiefly because they wanted to continue to allow slavery? I recall a scene in the episode of The Simpsons in which Apu becomes a U.S. citizen. In this scene, he is taking the citizenship test and he is asked what the Civil War was fought over, or something like this, and he replied that it was fought over something else (I'm not sure, but I think he said something about those states' economies) but the popular belief is that it was fought over the fate of the slaves, so that was what he was giving as his answer. --anon. 71.183.139.60 (talk) 23:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

I disagree. The states that seceded were all known as slave states and the primary cause of secession was indeed slavery, so the blurb as written is accurate. —howcheng {chat} 04:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: It's a Wonderful Life (maintenance); Macau (maintenance)
Omitted: Zodiac Killer; United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances; Implementation Force
Included: MV Doña Paz (2nd appearance, last in 2010); United States invasion of Panama (4th appearance, last in 2009; 25th anniversary); Portrait of Suzanne Bloch (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Cardiff (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: MV Doña Paz; United States invasion of Panama; Portrait of Suzanne Bloch
Included: Boeing 707 (first appearance); Implementation Force (5th appearance, last in 2013; 20th anniversary); Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (4th consecutive appearance, 6 total); Cardiff (4th consecutive appearance, 5 total; 60th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 11:39, 18 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Announcerless Game (not entirely sure this one is notable enough)
Omitted: Cardiff; Boeing 707 (ineligible—maintenance); Implementation Force; Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District; Portrait of Suzanne Bloch
Included: Experimental Breeder Reactor I (3rd appearance, last in 2008); Médecins Sans Frontières (first appearance); United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Macau (9th appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (5th consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Médecins Sans Frontières; United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances; Macau (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: MV Doña Paz (3rd appearance, last in 2014; 30th anniversary); Implementation Force (6th appearance, last in 2015); Portrait of Suzanne Bloch (4th appearance, last in 2015; 10th anniversary); Richard Boyle, 2nd Viscount Shannon (first appearance); Elizabeth Kekaaniau (first appearance); Beatrice Beeby (first appearance)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (6th consecutive appearance, 8 total); Experimental Breeder Reactor I (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): It's a Wonderful Life
Omitted: Experimental Breeder Reactor I MV Doña Paz; Implementation Force; Richard Boyle, 2nd Viscount Shannon; Elizabeth Kekaʻaniau; Beatrice Beeby
Included: Cardiff (6th appearance, last in 2015); Zodiac Killer (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 50th anniversary); United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (4th appearance, last in 2016; 30th anniversary); Ambroise Paré (first appearance); Bill O'Reilly (cricketer) (first appearance); Beth Doe (first appearance)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (7th consecutive appearance, 9 total); Portrait of Suzanne Bloch (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Experimental Breeder Reactor I (maintenance); Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District (maintenance)
Omitted: Cardiff; Zodiac Killer; United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances; Portrait of Suzanne Bloch; Ambroise Paré; Bill O'Reilly (cricketer); Beth Doe
Included: Operation Kraai; Médecins Sans Frontières (2nd appearance, last in 2016); MV Doña Paz (4th appearance, last in 2017); Macau (10th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible; 20th anniversary); Jean Jannon (first appearance); Kan'ichi Asakawa (first appearance); Dawn Steel (first appearance)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (8th consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 21:51, 23 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: It's a Wonderful Life (maintenance)
Omitted: Operation Kraai; Médecins Sans Frontières; MV Doña Paz; Macau; Jean Jannon; Kan'ichi Asakawa; Dawn Steel
Included: Announcerless game (first appearance); Implementation Force (7th appearance, last in 2017; 25th anniversary); Portrait of Suzanne Bloch (6th appearance, last in 2018); Pope Zephyrinus (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 40th anniversary); Richard Boyle, 2nd Viscount Shannon (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Beth Doe (2nd appearance, last in 2018)
Repeats: Confederate States of America (9th consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Operation Kraai (maintenance)
Omitted: Confederate States of America (ineligible—maintenance); Announcerless game; Implementation Force; Pope Zephyrinus; Richard Boyle, 2nd Viscount Shannon; Murder of Evelyn Colon (formerly titled "Beth Doe")
Included: Cardiff (7th appearance, last in 2018); Zodiac Killer (3rd appearance, last in 2018); United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (5th appearance, last in 2018); American Airlines Flight 965 (first appearance); John Bell (farmer) (first appearance); Kan'ichi Asakawa (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Beatrice Beeby (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 30th anniversary)
Repeats: Portrait of Suzanne Bloch (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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