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Category:Pages with Wiktionary entries

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The result of the debate was Delete. WinHunter (talk) 10:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC) Category:Pages with Wiktionary entries serves absolutely no purpose. It is a Wikipedia maintenance-style category not informative in terms of content. — Dunc|☺ 22:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Regional District of Fraser-Fort George, British Columbia

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:Fraser-Fort George Regional District, British Columbia. -- ProveIt (talk) 21:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American Politicians with family members who've served in OIF a/o OEF

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The result of the debate was Delete --WinHunter (talk) 11:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not a defining characteristic. If you want to keep it, please suggest a less awkward name. -- ProveIt (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
comment biased? I have people in both parties listed.
Bias doesn't have to have anything to do with political party. (Not to mention that there are more than 2 parties : ) - jc37 20:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
comment Listify sounds ok. 04:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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Category:AFC Pro Bowl players

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:American Conference Pro Bowl players. -- ProveIt (talk) 20:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:NFC Pro Bowl players

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:National Conference Pro Bowl players. -- ProveIt (talk) 20:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hoysala

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Hoysala Empire, to match the Hoysala Empire. -- ProveIt (talk) 19:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Turks and Caicos people

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:Turks and Caicos Islander people. -- ProveIt (talk) 18:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bay Area rappers

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:San Francisco Bay Area rappers as it better describes the geographic area these rappers hail from. --LBMixPro <Speak|on|it!> 18:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Emulators

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 15:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American Unitarians

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 15:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Discoveries

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 15:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, joke category. Apparently the Pshagananga built giant dodecahedrons to worship their gods. -- ProveIt (talk) 15:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British Geograph project

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British Geograph project to Category:Geograph British Isles images Category:Images of the Geograph British Isles project

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 15:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, Unfortunately these do not qualify for {{db-catempty}}. -- ProveIt (talk) 14:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Online games

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The result of the debate was Reverse Merge --WinHunter (talk) 11:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Online games into Category:Internet games

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Category:Polygamists to Category:Christian Polygamists

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 15:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's be blunt, this categeory is WP:POV and it's offensive because the term "polygamy" and "bigamy" are mostly used in a pejorative way here. In short it's a disaster waiting to happen. Please note that polygamy (as well as bigamy) is only a "sin" according to mainstream Christianity and hence to Western culture, the rest of the world has opposite views on this subject (even though most men marry only one wife, even when they may have more than one). This category's creators and users are assuming that every human on this planet shares the Western belief that polygamy is somehow negative. It's entries and sub-categories focus mainly on the Mormons' "failings" (as it's in the media spotlight now), and throws in a smattering of Biblical figures such as Abraham, Moses, David, and Esau as "polygamists" when in fact there is NOTHING in the Hebrew Bible that prohibits a man from marrying more than one wife. On the contrary, ancient Jewish law allows a man to marry more than one woman if he so desires and if he is able to care for them all. It was only in the early Middle Ages that Rabbi Gershom issued a ban against it which applied to Ashkenazi Jews only (since they lived in Christian lands). The category's name as it stands is thus simplistic and displays a gross mistunderstanding of other cultures' and religions' very real and ongoing tolerance for so-called "polygamy" over history until now. For example, Islam until the present time openly allows and encourages polygamy (where the man can support more than one spouse), and it would be foolish to suddenly find prominent Muslims (like all the Kings of Saudi Arabia -- the guardians of Islam's holiest shrines!) placed in a pejorative and demeaning "polygamy category" on Wikipedia. Over most of Africa polygamy is widespread and accepted, and who would want African polygamists (by country perhaps?) to land up in this poorly defined category? Thus it makes perfect sense that category be renamed as Category:Christian Polygamists which is really where this approach is coming from, and that all Biblical figures and non-Christians be removed and permanantly excluded from it. Thank you IZAK 11:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename for above reasons. IZAK 11:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do not rename polygamy is not unique to Mormons or Christians - I agree that the media spotlight makes this a more difficult issue; however, the category isn't People who practiced polygamy illegally but Category:Polygamists which is pretty easy to determine - did they have more than one spouse (and generally most only assign the term to those whose spouses were both living and married to one person at the same time. I would also favor straight Delete --Trödel 13:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the entire Category:Polygamy needs reorganisation, and that renaming just this one category isn't going to help much. I can see this name being controversial too. --kingboyk 15:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do not rename - agree, it needs some cleaning up and subcategorizing, but I find it to be a very interesting collection of people! I'm the original creator of the category, and I really didn't have quite the villainous motive as proposed above. I was actually pretty suprised that the category didn't exist before I set it up. Renaming the category to "Christian Polygamists" won't do too much except create more chaos and fights, only this time they will all be religiously fueled. Also, the above argument about not wanting to call Islamic and African kings polygamists "polygamists": what do you propose we call them? To me, that kind of sounds like not wanting to put George Washington in the category of "People with dentures" category because someone might see it one day and be shocked and offended by hearing unusual facts about someone considered by many to be a great leader. We could subcategorize the category in to "Christian polygamists", "Mormom polygamists", "Atheist polygamists", "Islamic polygamists" and soforth, but that's some very sticky ground... Shamrox 17:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rather than dividing the polygamists by religion, perhaps they should be divided by country? Categories such as American polygamists, British polygamists, and Saudi polygamists seem more appropriate than Christian polygamists and Muslim polygamists. After all, not all Muslims live in countries where polygamy is legal. --Metropolitan90 03:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep; the nomination is to rename Category:Polygamists to Category:Christian polygamists and I don't believe all polygamists are or have been Christians. Regards, David Kernow 03:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do Not Rename 1. Many of the people in this cat are not christian 2. Who are the bona fide polygamist who are offended to be called a "polygamist?" Dr U 06:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do not rename Osama bin Laden is a polygamist, and he could be put into this category because he has more than one wife. Jesse Viviano 16:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on the grounds that many polygamists are not Christians. However, no objection to creating subcats. -- ProveIt (talk) 17:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Not all polygamists are Christians. However, I think that this category could legitimately be split into subcategories. --Cswrye 22:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete nom and all subcats (including the religious org ones). We don't have category:Monogomists, and it puts forth the idea that more than one spouse makes one "different" than the mainstream, which is not true in many cultures (as noted above). In any case, "Christian" does not describe all who are categorized. This really looks like a cat that is mostly making a statement about religion, rather than culture. - jc37 17:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As birth ratios of males to females are close to 1:1, polygamy is not the norm in ANY culture. There aren't enough women to go around, and polyandry is exceedingly rare. Dr U 22:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Polygamy is an interesting classification: it's verifiable, it's not necessarily pejorative, and it's cross-cultural. We don't have a category:Monogomists for the same reason we don't have a category:Nobel prize non-winners. One issue is there will be debate about the edges: was Henry VIII a polygamist; under the Pope's ruling he had no divorce from wife 1 when he wed wife 2, but then he started the whole C-of-E and may have just skirted the whole polygamy thing, but these finer points of law and religion will be somebody's interest. Carlossuarez46 06:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Okay, so can we take this category off the "Categories for deletion" page, since no one has commented on this in four days, and we have a "Keep" majority? Shamrox 09:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:International Anti-Apartheid activists

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 15:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:International Anti-Apartheid activists to Category:Non-South African anti-Apartheid activists

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Category:Anglican Religious

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The result of the debate was Speedy delete as CSD C1 --WinHunter (talk) 11:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC) Category:Anglican religious to Category:Members of Anglican religious orders[reply]

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Category:South African physicians

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 14:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:South African physicians to Category:South African doctors

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Category:Chris Barrie songs

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The result of the debate was rename/merge to Category:Spitting Image songs --Kbdank71 14:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chris Barrie songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Namibian biography

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The result of the debate was Merge --WinHunter (talk) 11:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC) Category:Namibian biography into Category:Namibian people[reply]

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Category:Christian biography

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 14:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christian biography to Category:Books of Christian biography

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Category:Winnipeg streets

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The result of the debate was rename/merge to Category:Streets and squares in Winnipeg --Kbdank71 14:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Winnipeg streets into Category:Roads in Winnipeg

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Category:Contemporary instrumental musicians

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The result of the debate was Speedy delete all as CSD C1 --WinHunter (talk) 11:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all four. Created by user:Cricket0825 and each one only populated by Bradley Joseph (almost certainly a vanity article). Could Bradley please explain what the difference is between a pianist and "instrumental pianist". -- RHaworth 03:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cricket0825 05:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Sorry, not sure I should post here, but please note, "contemporary instrumental" is a valid GENRE of music of which I was trying to categorize bradley joseph into, (of whom I am not by the way - never met or spoke to the man - just trying to write an informative article about him with as many verifiable citations as I could find). And just because "it is only populated by Bradley Joseph does not mean I am trying to make him stand out - all genres were populated by only "one" at one time or another, agreed? I am hoping this genre fills up. Please reconsider this genre. It is not "new age" or "electronic" or anything like that. It is music that is orchestrated for many instruments - but not "classical". Cricket0825 05:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sports festivals in the Philippines

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 14:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sports festivals in the Philippines to Category:Sports festivals hosted in the Philippines

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Category:Malacoda albums

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Malacoda albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:People from New Zealand

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The result of the debate was cat redirect per nom --Kbdank71 14:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Category:New Zealand people. -- ProveIt (talk) 01:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Akhbar Al-Adab Newspaper

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The result of the debate was moved to Akhbar Al-Adab Newspaper --Kbdank71 14:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, premature ... there aren't any articles for it yet. -- ProveIt (talk) 01:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Move to article space; this is a stub in the wrong place. Septentrionalis 20:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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