Pimprenel

February 2017

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Marian and Holy Trinity columns, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Marian and Holy Trinity columns

Hello Chris, I am sorry to have erased the sentence about the column topped with a Virgin Mary dating back to the 10th century in Clermont-Ferrand, I should have talked about it before. But as mentioned right above, encyclopedic content must be verifiable. I cannot see any source for this statement. I have searched the list of religious monuments in Clermont-Ferrand and couldn't find any column with the Virgin Mary. But in the french wikipedia, in a subject about the cathedral of Clermont-Ferrand (paragraph statue de la Vierge) there is a sentence about a statue of the Vierge Marie en Majesté (Maestà) "C’est au Xe siècle à Clermont qu’apparut la toute première statue d’une vierge en majesté." translated as : The very first Maestà appeared in Clermont in the 10th century. that statue was to decorate the altar of the cathedral. It was destroyed during the french Revolution. I thought that Maestà was mistaken for a Marian columm.

I can't prove that there was no Marian column in Clermont-Ferrand in the 10th century, even if in France there are not many such things. I have only found a plague column in Marseilles, built after the plague outburst in 1720.

But can you prove there is or was one in Clermont- Ferrand ? best regards --Pimprenel (talk) 19:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I am totally fine with you removing unsourced content. (Most of that article is unsourced and probably ought to be deleted.) My issue is that your edit summary said in part: "big mistake, the 10th century statue of The Virgin Mary in Clermont Ferrand was meant to sit on the altar of the church" asserting you know better. If you're making a positive assertion you need to provide a reliable source. I'd also remind you of WP:CIRCULAR, you can't use other Wikipedia articles as sources. Removing unsourced content only requires you provide an edit summary explaining such. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:18, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Cyrille Dubois

Hello, Pimprenel. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Cyrille Dubois".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:08, 4 September 2021 (UTC)