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Harry's House - "Daylight"

Hello Livelikemusic. The two sources I added on the page define "Daylight" as a single, and in addition other sites define the song as a single. For example, the sources of "Satellite" are similar to the sources I added. UserFlash (talk) 19:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

By Wikipedia standards and practices, a song must receive a radio-add to be considered a single. In today's day and age, simply releasing a music video does not equate to being considered a single. If you feel strongly in having it added, you may open a talk page discussion at the article itself. livelikemusic (TALK!) 00:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I opened a talk page discussion at the article. UserFlash (talk) 22:51, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello livelikemusic. I'm still waiting for your reply on the Harry's House talk page. Thank you UserFlash (talk) 10:28, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Taskforce

Hey :) I was considering *potentially* starting a The Bold and the Beautiful articles related taskforce (similarly to how Emmerdale has one). If I did start one, would you be interested? DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Apologies for delay in response. Thank you for reaching out; I may consider it, however, I'd likely be more useful for past entries, as I stopped watching the soap in 2019. livelikemusic (TALK!) 03:02, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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May I please ask why you changed the image? The current image was recent (I took it from an August episode), fair use and showed her smiling, and whilst images are able to be changed, it feels like it was changed for no legitimate reason. It has upset me a bit to be honest as it feels like it was done for no legitimate reason, and that no other user is allowed to upload character photos or they will be reverted.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

This accusatory message is very off-putting and, quite honestly, I had a different response until you added in , and that no other user is allowed to upload character photos or they will be reverted., which leaves me with this: you taking this as a personal attack shows little good faith on your part, and that is quite frankly not my problem. I'll revert and delete the image to avoid bruising one's feelings, despite the image still failing fair use for content. And a smiling image, FYI, is not criteria for what's acceptable. That is a preference on your part. Not to mention, PNG format is generally preferred for viewing quality. Good day. livelikemusic (TALK!) 16:28, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Soaps improvement drive

Hello, I pinged you on the WP:SOAPS talk page about this so sorry to double on the message but I want to get as many on-board for this as it's ambitious, even for me. Due to the recent surge in scrutiny on soap articles, we all need to come together and improve soap articles, so I've created an improvement drive with dates and articles for the soap WikiProject to focus on improving articles each week. Right now, it's focused on Hollyoaks, but the plan is to keep it going until we get to each soap. I did not include a section to sign up as I didn't want editors to feel that they are signing their life away and are expected to edit the articles mercilessly. I hope for some level of dedication but it's not a drive with huge pressure. Are you interested in joining in? – Meena • 11:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

@Meena: Hi! Yes, I did receive the ping, and was planning on responding at some point today... I have not had a day off of my job since Tuesday, so I've been trying to sleep, ha! I am definitely interesting in joining and doing the absolute best I can to assist! The latest AfD's are concerning, as if these were primetime articles, I fully believe this would not be happening. livelikemusic (TALK!) 12:39, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

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Neighbours photos

Hi, there. I see you've been adding new photos to all the Neighbours articles. I just wanted to say, that typically the photos we include in soap operas are closer to the shape of a square, not a rectangular shape, like yours are. So maybe in the future it would be better to adjust the shape, just so they're not too long, detract from the page from being to large and are consistent with the rest of Wikipedia articles. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 21:26, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Therealscorp1an: Yes, hi. I was wondering if there was someplace this was stated, as I've not noticed any consensus and / or general disscussion on rectangular vs. square images — only that episodic images should be used in comparison to publicity (character vs. actor)? I've been uploading images for years and no one has someone come to me and stated that those included in soap articles are more square in shape. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I've never actually seen a discussion (a consensus) on the issue, but from what I've witnessed, it seems that the square-shaped images are preferred by and look more aesthetically pleasing for editors. This could be in part the reason your new photo on David Tanaka has just been reverted. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 21:35, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Therealscorp1an: If that's the case, then that is a preference, and if preference is the case, then preference ≠ consensus, and perhaps and overriding discussion may be had once more to further expand upon the previous discussion. Because, for my preference, the more rectangular shape is more pleasing, just in the same way [some] prefer the smaller images, which was also recently discussed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Soap Operas. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I'll comment here because I can't comment below for some reason, even though it's the same discussion... I have to completely agree with User:Raintheone's point about there being 'too much neck' in these photos. The point of the photos is to represent the character over their tenure without detracting from the article. I'm afraid that these photos are too 'long' and don't need to be updated as soon as a character has changed their physical look. Aaron with a beard is not representative of his whole tenure on the soap and there's no constructive usefulness in updating a photo every time a character changes their appearance. That's my opinion anyway. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Therealscorp1an: Your conversation was removed to keep our conversation here and my conversation with someone else elsewhere for my ADHD. That's why their comment was removed from your talk page post, as well, and put into their own. For me, the excuse of "too much neck" is a complete personal preference and not a set-in-stone standard, and it seems very much a thing with certain soap editors within an Australian / British soap view, and it's why the community continues to be separated, and honestly not feel welcoming or inclusive at all. There is zero discussion (as I have requested) that says the photograph needs to represent an entire tenure, etc. I can guarantee, if the new image (File:Takaya Honda as David Tanaka.png) had been more cropped, it would still pose an issue because of other reasons. Not the first time my attempts to slightly improve the quality a bit, visually, have been reverted and been against; it's feeling very targetive and not assuming of good faith, which is all my actions have been. livelikemusic (TALK!) 02:31, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay, let's switch away from why I think they are deconstructive; why do you think they are constructive and how do they improve the article? We have given our reasons, but I haven't seen yours. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 03:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Therealscorp1an: Actually, I did! With this edit, I did state: The change was to provide a higher quality image, yet still meeting non-free content criteria requirements which is exactly what I feel I did, regardless of composition, orientation, size, etc. but it is clear that's not how it has been viewed. livelikemusic (TALK!) 03:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Higher equality? The old photos were of perfectly fine quality, not blurry just as this one. Some photo updates just seem to be for the sake of updating them, like that of Paul Robinson. The photo in that article is abnormally close to his face, half his hair is cut off from the camera and his head only makes up 1/2 of the photo at most! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 06:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Neighbours photos (II)

I just restored David Tanaka's as I was confused about the update. Surely it just good house keeping to ensure a cropped image excluding show sets are used. I came here because you updated Aaron's too. I have not undone that because I did not want you to think I was disagreeing for the sake of it. I do wonder what the need to update them is?Rain the 1 21:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Raintheone: Hi, Raintheone, nice to hear from you old friend. I put your inquiry in a separate discussion, as my ADHD goes insane with more than one conversation is happening within a talk page discussion. I am sorry you feel as if the new image (File:Takaya Honda as David Tanaka.png) is not in-line with what you view as good house keeping (which, again, I've yet to see any form of consensus on and is the first time I am hearing of it). From my POV, my image does not include anymore scenery than your does, but does in fact showcase more of the character and is clearer. Not to mention, PNG vs. JPEG / JPG is more of a lossless image file, and is ultimately clearer (as viewed at PNG#JPEG, and, wish you had merely stated that in your edit summary, instead of t was fine before - he looks the same, but that's just nit-picking at this point in time, LOL. And I appreciate you coming here, because it was feeling a bit like you were disagreeing for the sake of it, as this is not the first time this has happened, and was feeling a bit... targeted, I guess you could say, so I appreciate you coming here and discussing it with me. 👍🏻 livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I am always happy to discuss. I do think your image contributions are questionable in regards to the article content. Aaron now has a prominent beard. Is that a reason to change the image? Does it reflect the character's full tenure? You could argue that David has not changed much? Some of the changes also appear humorous.. perhaps the issue is with the aesthetics? Too much neck in most?Rain the 1 23:17, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Raintheone: The change was to provide a higher quality image, yet still meeting non-free content criteria requirements. This, again, feels like a concept of personal preference over anything else, and nit-picking (reflect character's full tenure, too much scenery, too much neck, etc) to me to avoid having images changed beyond what is comfortable for [some]. livelikemusic (TALK!) 00:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Including an image that reflects the content of an article is not nit-picking. I am comfortable with improving images if adds to the article. We have spent far too much of our lives improving these articles for you to not know this. LolRain the 1 00:57, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Raintheone: See, now you're assuming things, and that's quite off-putting and assuming I'm not trying to improve articles, but now it appears you're assuming I'm trying to destroy that, and that does not sit well with me. It's not the first time my attempts to improve quality within images for non-American soaps has been fought against, and seems very targetive for me (even beyond images at this point). livelikemusic (TALK!) 02:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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Tour date table change explanation

Hi! I changed the tables in Love Sux Tour and Greatest Hits Tour (Avril Lavigne) based on a discussion in which it was the topic. The discussion (which is now closed) can be found at Talk:Hackney Diamonds Tour#Tour date table change. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@HorrorLover555: A one-day discussion on one page is not a broad enough discussion; this type of discussion, which would affect many articles should have been brought up to WP:CONCERT — a project that oversees concert tours, which was never alerted to this change, which one-user has suggested becomes the "norm" of a mass-change operation. And since the user in-question, who tried to fight against many things on Wikipedia with a narrowed-lens of understanding of policies, is presently under a WP:CBAN from Wikipedia, as enacted here. This is a change that would impact pages upon pages, and that user simply stating: Those articles should be changed. is highly suspect to reflect their point of view, as well as trying to impose past-usages of the table from prior to the present-day usage happenings, which adhere to MOS and standards of Wikipedia. The change(s) shouldn't take place without greater, on-going discussion. livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

You're right. The discussion isn't broad enough, and it should not have been changed without further talks. Thank you for letting me know what was going on. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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The Antel Arena is within the city limits of Montevideo. As some arenas in which I corrected the locations are actually within the areas of the cities in which they are being promoted. The concept changes from country to country as is the case with the Bercy Arena which is actually within the city of Paris, because Bercy is one of the neighborhoods of Paris, it is not another city. The arena is within the urban ring of the city. In the same way as the Zalgiris Arenas in Kaunas which is within the city limits.I am a geographer by training and i know that the concept of city changes from country to country. I am Brazilian and as Montevideo was a city founded by Portuguese, its division is very similar to Brazilian cities, so Villa Española is a neighborhood that is a subdivision of city, it's not another. When a city appears hosting a show and being promoted in a location that is in another, it's because the Arena is in its metropolitan region. De Boni 2007 (talk) 00:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@De Boni 2007: You, yourself, being a "geographer by training" and Brazilian is irrelevant in this situation, because that's you trying to assert yourself above someone else, and implying you are a "source," which is not acceptable per Wikipedia policy. As pointed out ⏤ this is the same situation of stating the Barclays Center is in the borough (or neighbourhood) of Brooklyn over New York City, which is where it is, as noted on its Wikipedia page. Per the Wikipedia page and as set up in a standard across multiple other articles, we list the proper location, with the note {{efn}} noting the city that's being promoted in promotional materials. This has become the standard practice across concert tour articles, and the standard is ever-evolving to further adhere to MOS policy and guidelines. Also, per my talk page rules, next time, please keep on your talk page where I placed the warning note, and not here. It's also worthy to note you did not open this discussion on the page's talk page days ago, per WP:BRD, and only did it after receiving a warning for disruptive editing. livelikemusic (TALK!) 00:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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