Redirect handling

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There seems to be a bug (or let's say an interesting behavior) in the way the bot handles the situation when the archive destination is a redirect. See the discussion at Talk:Assisted suicide § Archive mix-up and the edit history of Talk:Assisted suicide/Archive 2. In that case, the archive destination name was a redirect, but the bot has been appending discussions below the redirect instead of following the redirect and appending the discussions to its destination. This created a situation in which the archived discussions became basically invisible to readers since anyone trying to look at what was in the archive was summarily redirected somewhere else. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

(talk page watcher) @BarrelProof: Ever since lowercase sigmabot III took over archiving from the MiszaBots (and possibly before that), it has been the case that the value of the |archive= parameter is taken literally, apart from the replacement of variables - redirects have never been followed. This is indirectly addressed at User:Lowercase sigmabot III/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained, which says the target page must be a subpage of the current page. This is one of the reasons why it is important to move subpages along with the main page. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Why not change it to follow redirects (or fail when the destination is a redirect)? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I can't answer that question for Σ, but judging by Special:Contributions/Σ they are unlikely to answer any time soon, and even less likely to do anything to alter how the bot operates. But I would imagine that it's some kind of safeguard, against the malicious conversion of a valid archive into a redirect to somewhere totally other. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

More guidance on how to install a bot like this one using Forge

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I tried my best (a few days ago) and after about an hour of trying to get all of this setup I couldn't manage. Any help? :) L.E. Rainer 18:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

You don't state which page this was on. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Searchable archive banner not appearing on some article talk pages with MiszaBot

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Some article talk pages with recently archived content via MiszaBot are not displaying the searchable archive banner that is displayed on most other talk pages. Here is a talk page without the archive displayed. What formatting will enable the archive banner to appear on the talk page? Thanks. Llll5032 (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Redrose64, would you know the answer? Llll5032 (talk) 20:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Finding when the template is set too aggressive

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I have seen that sometimes people will set the minimum number of threads to leave as "0" (zero). When this happens it will tag sigma bot's edit as "Manual revert" and the talk page will usually be blank. These edits can be found by searching the bot's edits in the Talk space and adding the tag for manual reverts.[1]

This is also a good predictor for cases when some of the other bot settings are out of proportion. Wizmut (talk) 14:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)Reply