Talk:Van Zant (duo)
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Latest comment: 1 year ago by CapnZapp in topic move protection
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 | On 16 April 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Van Zant to Van Zant (band). The result of the discussion was moved. |
| On 20 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Van Zant (band) to Van Zant (duo). The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 16 April 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 01:25, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
– Although this band is the only one that is an exact title match, Johnny Van Zant, Ronnie Van Zant, Donnie Van Zant, and Paige VanZant all get a lot more pageviews. Van Zant should thus be a disambiguation page. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 19:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Support. The band does not appear to be the primary topic by usage [1]. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:51, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Dicklyon (talk) 03:36, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Requested move 20 November 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 16:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Van Zant (band) → Van Zant (duo) – They were best known as a duo, not a full band. "Duo" is an acceptable disambiguation term per pages such as Trout Fishing in America (duo). I'd do this myself per WP:BOLD, but the page seems to be move-protected. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 11:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Move back to Van Zant. This is the only article on WP using that title. Station1 (talk) 20:29, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- As the OP, I am not opposed to this. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:48, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose moving to Van Zant. The existing disambiguation page at that name seems to have lots of possible meanings for this term, including with this exact spelling/spacing/typography. As per the RM a few years ago, no evidence that this specific duo, and not any of the people (including those even within this family) is the PRIMARYTOPIC. For example, here are the 30-day page-view counts for exact-string bio pages "Van Zant":
| Article | Pageviews |
|---|---|
| Van Zant (band) | 5352 |
| Johnny Van Zant | 37051 |
| Ronnie Van Zant | 71109 |
| Donnie Van Zant | 17653 |
| Jimmie Van Zant | 915 |
| Dick Van Zant | 6 |
No objection to (duo)if that's how they are best known. DMacks (talk) 18:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)- @DMacks The article doesn't even mention any other members, so it's pretty clear they're best known as a duo. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:33, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- The discography lists: "No More Dirty Deals (as Johnny Van Zant Band)" and that the group shortened their name thereafter, but No More Dirty Deals says the album is a solo album, but also lists five band-members who have different last names. This is all too tangled for me, so I am abstaining in deference to those who can figure it out. DMacks (talk) 21:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Their highest chart hit and most successful album were as a duo, and most sources don't even mention the non-duo lineup. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Support move to (duo) as how they are best known. DMacks (talk) 12:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- The discography lists: "No More Dirty Deals (as Johnny Van Zant Band)" and that the group shortened their name thereafter, but No More Dirty Deals says the album is a solo album, but also lists five band-members who have different last names. This is all too tangled for me, so I am abstaining in deference to those who can figure it out. DMacks (talk) 21:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- @DMacks The article doesn't even mention any other members, so it's pretty clear they're best known as a duo. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:33, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
move protection
editbut the page seems to be move-protected
: When this page was still called Van Zant, Maxim protected it with the edit commentary "Pagemove war [move=sysop]" at 20:35, 10 September 2008. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 19:21, 5 December 2023 (UTC)