Talk:Telescopium/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gilderien (talk · contribs) 01:31, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm reading through it. One thing that jumped out at me is the note - "stars within a few degrees of the horizon are to all intents and purposes unobservable" - 11 degrees is quite a substantial portion which are implied not visible, should a quantifier regarding latitudes further north be added? --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 22:17, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I have had a tough time looking for sources discussing this aspect much on many stars/constellations - I guess most of us are city-dwellers with buildings and trees and crap significantly obfuscating the horizon, let alone extinction (and telescopium is pretty faint). If I can see anything else sourceable I will add Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

And a bit more of a review...

• Images - the two that are currently there are nice and also appropriately licensed - it might be nice to have one or two in the stars and deep sky objects sections, which are currently looking a bit bare.

yeah...trying to find appropriately licenced images is...challenging...will keep looking.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• Copyright - I did a page scan and could not find evidence of plagiarism or copyright infringement. I shall examine the sources in more detail later.
• Prose - overall the style is fine, but I had a few minor issues:
  • "astronomer and student of the southern skies" - is this usage of the word "student" correct? Would "observer" or documentor work better?

yeah, bit flowery - I rejigged the lead Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:15, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• • "The system is complex, as has a common proper motion" - is this meant to be and?

I meant "as it also has" - as it the two are travelling with a third star Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:15, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• • "allowing the margin of error in their distances just overlaps," is confusing, if I am understanding it right would something like "however, the uncertainty in their distances overlap, so blah blah" work?

exactly - tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:38, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• • I made some minor copy-edits, which you can revert and discuss if you so wish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilderien (talk • contribs) 03:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

yeah...they look ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:35, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• • "common proper motion with (and is hence gravitationally bound to)" - from my own knowledge, and having examined the source, I'm not sure the "hence" should be there - objects can share common proper motion without being part of the same system). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilderien (talk • contribs) 03:38, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Good point/removed - forgot about Moving Groups Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• • "result of a merger between a helium- and carbon-oxygen white dwarf" - this plural, or not, is I think potentially confusing. Would it be correct to have an "a" before the word carbon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilderien (talk • contribs) 03:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I added 'a' - I think it's ok without it but have been pinged by folks before for leaving out too many words like this Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

More to come --Gilderien Berate|List of good deeds 21:38, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

So... I am now confident that it meets:

• 1 a) and b)
• 2 a) (in a nice way as well, although it might be nice to condense the citations into 2 columns), b) and c)

tweaked thusly Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

• 3 - both are dealt with in an acceptable manner
• 4 as it is neutral (not sure how it could not be)
• 5 as it is stable
• 6 - it contains some images of appropriate properties. The article NGC 6845 however does have an image.

--Gilderien Chat|Contributions 21:13, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Since it meets all the criteria, I have no choice but to pass it as a Good Article ;) Congratulations. I shall do the honours.--Gilderien Chat|Contributions 21:27, 6 August 2014 (UTC)