Talk:Stone (unit)

Vs. Pound Sterling

Is it known whether the UK's continued common use of "stone" has anything to do with avoiding confusion over the fact "pound" is also the unit of currency? 68.146.52.234 (talk) 13:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Interesting idea but to be honest I doubt it. Please don't let that put you off researching it if you'd like to follow it up, but as a BrE speaker brought up pre-metric I can tell you that I don't "feel" the language point at all - context is all, and you can almost never get confused between the two. But feel free to prove me wrong! Cheers DBaK (talk) 18:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

No, I think it's just that we have continued with the traditional unit (stone) and see no need to express heavy weights in what to us are less appropriate units (in that pounds go into hundreds for human body weight). We still use pounds for smaller weights (cakes etc) without any confusion, and hundredweights (cwt = 112 lb) and tons (20 cwt = 2240 lb) for larger units, though 50kg has replaced the hundredweight, and the metric tonne has replaced the imperial ton for many applications. Dbfirs 08:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Hundredweight

in the imperial system is utterly inexplicably 108 or 112 lbs, neither 100 nor 120 (the old Germanic long hundred). This unit is the reason why and per WP:LEAD (inter alia, "explain why the subject is notable") it belongs in the lead. Against claims that the hundredweight is unnotable... at the very least it's much more notable than this unit itself is. — LlywelynII 13:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

You have presented no sources for your claim that the values of the hundredweight are "utterly inexplicable". You have presented no sources here for your contradictory claim that they are explained by differences in the value of the stone. You have presented a lesser claim at hundredweight, using only primary sources that indicate nothing but variations in the values of the hundredweight with no indication of the historical reasons; it is surmise and original research. The claim is not required to confer notability on Stone (unit) and the notability of the stone is not dependent on the notability of the hundredweight; you will notice that no-one else has challenged the notability of this unit of measure or suggested that this article should not exist. Far from being required in the lead, this claim is not a summary of material presented in the body of the article per WP:LEDE. Please do not reinstate it until - per WP:BRD - you have achieved consensus for the claim, presenting secondary sources, integrated the material into the body of the article and established consensus that it is of sufficient value to the reader to include a summary of it in the lead. NebY (talk) 10:00, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Was this necessary? Who is it saving from what confusion? The article is already entitled "Stone (unit)". Best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 20:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

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Wording of subsection heading

Moved from User talk:DeFacto

 – -- DeFacto (talk). 08:29, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

What do you mean by this? Virtually everything in the "Great Britain and Ireland" section is modern — the only exceptions are the statutes of 1300 and 1350 — so having a header that implies that "modern" excludes that content is a gross misrepresentation of the facts. Nyttend (talk) 23:32, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Nyttend, I reverted your change because "since metrication" didn't make sense because - it is so ambiguous and imprecise. -- DeFacto (talk). 08:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)