Talk:Sonora

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Would it be acceptable to add a section relating to the immigrant situation on the northern border of Sonora? I feel that this is an important aspect of at least the northern portion of the state, and should have a mention... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.24.9.82 (talk • contribs)

c'mon. Kɔffeedrinksyou 17:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Let's summarize this article!

As compared to another state, State of Mexico, Sonora has a lot more information available that what is considered normal for a state (150,000 bytes vs. 59,000 bytes). Losing all this information is nuts, yet showing it off as a bulk of information is weird. I am proposing to make a special article to each section as showed here:

History

Main article: History of Sonora

Sonora was discorvered...
With this we are deepening the knowledge as we are making a special article for each information-saturated section, and we are giving it somewhat an aesthetic bonus. Who is with me?
--steveMX (talk) 17:57, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Without a doubt it needs to be done, (Im the one who expanded the hell out of it in the first place). Dr. Blofeld did the same to the Oaxaca article which I had expanded, and did it very well. Im lousy at editing my own work.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:01, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld made an excellent job blending both information, organization and images. I'll be glad to start with Sonora right away--steveMX 00:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

More Graphic Material

The recent additions made are very good, yet, to someone with an ephemeral time for interest, it is boring, and so, graphic material is needed. Lets start by making a template of Sonora's biggest cities, like Chihuahua's.
{{Largest cities of Chihuahua}}
It should be something like this: {{Largest Cities of Sonora}}
I'm open for any suggestions, changes or doubts.

--steveMX (talk) 20:52, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Im all for more graphics (and pics too) but that is too big for something with so little information. You should contact Dr. Blofeld he has a lot of experience with this.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I've updated the template. What about this? If not, could you please show me an example of how it should be?--steveMX (talk) 17:38, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Town of Sonora

Does anyone know if there is also a town in Mexico of this name? Perhaps its just fiction, but in the song, "Sonora's Death Row":

Well the Mezcal is free in Amanda's saloon

For the boys from the old Broken O

Saturday nights in the town of Sonora

Are the best in all Mexico...[1]

-MrFizyx 19:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but there's one in California, and California used to be part of Mexico. --Node 09:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Origin of name

Is Sonora of Spanish origin or from an aboriginal language? Just wanting to know for List of Placenames of Indigenous Origin in the Americas, which has a Mexico section (see Talk:List of Placenames of Indigenous Origin in the Americas.Skookum1 20:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Origin of the name of Sonora

There are a lot of versions about the origin of the name of the State. Almost all of them talk about how the old american indians (Yaquis, mayos, Papagos, etc) couldn't pronounce the word Señora (Lady in inglish) a very used word from the explorers and missionaries that went up from the now called State of Sinaloa all of them Spanish from galician origin.

The spanishs Traveled up to those lands in search of the legendary 7 cities of Cíbola, lands full of mineral wealths resources and abundant rivers. The explorers carried with themselves flags of catholic imagies of diverses virgins as Nuestra señora del Rosario and Nuestra señora de las Angustias.

The American Indians of the area were in the habit of being calling them Our Senora or Sonora instead of Our Lady because they could not declare the letter "ñ". The word settled in the vocabulary of the american indian population. When new people from the south (Now State of sinaloa) almost all of them form spanish galician origin went up to the State to stay for good, they start using this word as the name of the large territory.

Sonora means also Sonorous, some people say that the word was also used to name the state because all the wealths that the state had. The riches of the state (especially mineral resources) make a beauty Sound.

The full name of the place called' Sonora' is Estado Libre Soberanode Sonora.I am thankful to the Spanish people who kept the name of the place intact. Actually both the words Sonora and Sobernode are Sanskrit words. Sonara means ' Golden '. The word ' sona, is a Hindi word which means ' gold '. It has evolved from the Sanskrit words 'Swarna '/ 'Suvarna' which mean ' gold'. In the languages of North-East India the vowel sound /a / is pronounced as / o/.( eg. Rama as Ramo). Similarly the /va/ sound is pronounced as/ ba / ( eg.Vanga - banga) in these languages. So if we replace the /o/ sound with /a/ sound and /b/with /v/ in the word soberano-de we get the original Sanskrit word 'Suvarna-deya' which means 'gold-giver', a place which gives gold. Similarly the word' Sonar desert' means the desert of gold

or 'golden desert '. For example the Bangladeshis call their country as ' aamaar sonaar Baangla- 'our golden Bangladesh. The native tribes who resided in this region  like the Maya tribe, reached this place some ten thousand years ago, all the way from the Himalayan-ranges of North-East India, by travelling through ages, across the Middle-East,Africa,South America and finally to the Rocky mountains. They are called the Nagas or the Cobras.They were experts in exploring precious stones and the yellow metal'Gold'. They were devotees of the Goddess'- Mother Kali'.They inhabited the region from California to Calgary on the slopes of the Rocky mountans.. The name of' KALI'in found at a number of places in the  west coast of North America. 117.195.226.114 (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Bksatyanarayana.

the yellow metal called GOLD.117.195.226.114 (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC) Bksatyanarayana Rocky mountain-region soberanode we get the word

eres un che-pin borracho — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.225.103.1 (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

"Motto"

I was very surprised to see the motto on this page say "Sonora is for hardcore Mexicans." Not only had I never heard that, it sounded very wrong.

http://www.sonora.gob.mx/BusquedaSitioIntegrada.asp is the official Sonora state web site. Under the logo of "Sonora" it says "vamos por soluciones." That sounds like a motto or "lema" to me. That means "we go for solutions" or "we go by solutions." I know that motto on this wikipedia page is wrong and probably is a joke of some type. I don't feel qualified to take it down but the state's logo and "saying" is what I just said. I haven't looked at all the information pages - but they are definitely not up to par with the pages on Mexico in Spanish. AmySterling 05:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)AmySterling

The state borders listed add up to 2,505 km (the total perimeter listed) without allowing for the short border with Baja California. 08:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis (talk • contribs)

Orphaned references in Sonora

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Sonora's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "inegi":

• From Tamaulipas: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 7, 2011.
• From Chihuahua (state): "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From Quintana Roo: "Relieve". Cuentame INEGI. Retrieved April 6, 2011.
• From Veracruz: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From Zacatecas: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From San Luis Potosí: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 6, 2011.
• From List of Mexican states by population: (in Spanish) Website of the National Institute of Statistics, Geography, and Data Processing
• From State of Mexico: INEGI (1997). Estado de México Guía Turística]. INEGI. ISBN 970-13-1194-9.
• From Yucatán: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From Tabasco: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 7, 2011.
• From Sinaloa: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 6, 2011.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:00, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Etymology

I fixed the etymology section. It's now closer to User:Rhyme4's version. What I think happened is this: a while ago, someone writing the article took the source here [2], section "Nomenclatura", and put it into Google Translate. The person who did this was unfamiliar with De Vaca, so when Google gave them "Another version about this name is due to the shipwrecks of Florida, Alvaro Nunez Cabeza de Vaca and his companions," they assumed that "Florida" was de Vaca's ship, and that they wrecked off Sonora. Really, de Vaca was wrecked off of Florida, and made his was to Sonora. I've corrected accordingly. Howicus (talk) 03:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! ComputerJA (talk) 05:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice job! Tesi1700 (talk) 20:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Rhyme4 deserves the credit, they spotted the error. I just fixed it after another well-meaning editor reverted Rhyme4's edit. Howicus (talk) 20:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Daylight saving time

I think it should be mentioned somewhere in the article that Sonora doesn't observe DST, like (most of) its neighbour Arizona (as Mexico wants to facilitate the economic ties between the two states). 77.70.30.216 (talk) 08:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Infobox flag RFC

Should this article have a flag inside the infobox? There is a discussion about it at WikiProject Mexico, where you can join and discuss it. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:38, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Is there any info on the flag? I came here to find it since the google image results were quite mixed.

The de facto flag of Sonora is based on the Seal of Sonora. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I think it should be added. Sonora's flag is de facto, no legislation exists on it, but the state government uses it. Which makes it important enough mentioning. Perhaps instead of "Flag" the caption can be kept as "De facto flag." In all honesty, I have my disagreements with the consensus. Flagvisioner (talk) 22:47, 16 October 2022 (UTC)