Talk:Sandboxie
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Shareware? Freeware?
editThe latest release is a shareware. Though, there are some earlier version that are considered freeware.
Here are two examples
Release 3.02 Freeware
Release 3.34 Shareware
AuricBlofeld (talk) 02:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- I dont think it is considered Shareware. Shareware implies that it is only useable for 30days, after that the program wont work unless you register it. Thats not the case with Sandboxie. Sandboxie will continue to run forever as long as it is installed, you just start to get nag screens after 30 days. If anything it is Nagware. However, the developer himself classifies the program as Freeware. I think it is best classified as Nagware imo. TheSameGuy (talk) 22:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, I am not really sure as to what Shareware means. See the definitions http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shareware http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shareware?jss=0 and compare that to freeware http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/freeware?jss=0 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/freeware . For me, it still looks as if Sandboxie is still a shareware. Anyways, see https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Template:Infobox_Software that states that for the licensing of a software, " License such as proprietary, [[GNU General Public License|GPL]]. Pick either license (American English) or licence (Commonwealth English), not both - select the one which matches the content of the article the template is used in. " Some articles use both freeware and shareware separated by comma. You could do this, or have the licensing of Sandboxie has proprietary.Which I think, is probably correct. AuricBlofeld (talk) 09:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- No original research, please. What's important is that it's currently officially a shareware. Officially as in according to the author himself (as currently referred to in the article). -79.176.206.23 (talk) 16:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, I am not really sure as to what Shareware means. See the definitions http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shareware http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shareware?jss=0 and compare that to freeware http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/freeware?jss=0 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/freeware . For me, it still looks as if Sandboxie is still a shareware. Anyways, see https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Template:Infobox_Software that states that for the licensing of a software, " License such as proprietary, [[GNU General Public License|GPL]]. Pick either license (American English) or licence (Commonwealth English), not both - select the one which matches the content of the article the template is used in. " Some articles use both freeware and shareware separated by comma. You could do this, or have the licensing of Sandboxie has proprietary.Which I think, is probably correct. AuricBlofeld (talk) 09:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Moved Content
edit- Security Now 172: Sandboxie
- (in French) Le principe du bac à sable (Infomars)
- (in French) Sandboxie Description, use and tests (Txon)
- (in Italian) Navigare su Internet in tutta sicurezza con Sandboxie (Gianni Amato)
- How To Surf More Securely (Ian "Gizmo" Richards)
- Reordered sections so newer versions/dates are at top. Better flow and not as depressing to read. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.24.249.66 (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Features
editThis section is written like a review. (August 2008) |
Sandboxie is active upstream from any infections which may occur in computers equipped with a Windows OS. This software isolates navigation files, applications functions and registry calls, which it redirects into a sandbox.
Downloaded files such as scripts and other programs are locked in replicas of the directories normally used. Sandboxie uses a copy of the Windows Registry in order to protect the original from malicious insertions.
The modifications carried out under the protection of Sandboxie do not affect the original "Unsandboxed" files, parasites and bugs that are locked in the sandbox do not affect the operating system. In the same way, any type of malware elements are confined into the container. Any new files or changes which are to be kept should be registered outside the sandbox after having checked their validity. However, if you only wish to recover particular files you may have downloaded into the sandbox, you can use the "Quick Recovery" option or the "Immediate Recovery" option turned on by default to recover them to outside the sandbox.
Furthermore, Sandboxie, from the zone that it controls, does not allow any injection into the kernel of Windows (software driver, DLL ...), nor does it allow any injection into running processes or files inside the sandbox. Thus, it acts in a similar way but at a different level to the Kernel Patch Protection system on x64 editions of Windows and prevents the execution within it of any software in supervisor mode, be it malicious or not.
Certain programs are prohibited from being executed within Sandboxie, due to their nature of moving in irreplaceable data that is trapped within Sandboxie. One such program is Outlook Express. Any MAILTO calls to this program from within the sandbox are blocked. Also, programs that generate automatic keyboard or mouse data, such as mouse movers and fake surfers, are blocked. These programs may inadvertently shut down a Sandboxie session or invoke an instance of a program that is not sandboxed. Because of this, games created with the 3D engine DarkBASIC are blocked from executing from within the sandbox due to its method of internal DirectX data management.
With version 3.34, Sandboxie now has a selectable feature similar to the Drop My Rights program, and has added a selection to create a colored border around the windows of sandboxed programs.
64-bit Windows
editSandboxie is no longer developed for 64-bit editions of Windows XP, and there is no intention of ever developing a version for Windows Vista and Server 2008 or future x64 Windows releases.[1] In the past, Sandboxie could run on XP x64 by bypassing Patchguard, however as of Windows Vista's release, which contains an updated and much revised PatchGuard, Sandboxie can no longer run on future x64 Windows. XP64 hotfix "KB932596" updates Patchguard to bring it up to speed with the protection found in Vista's Patchguard, if users remove this upgrade they can run the last 64bit version of Sandboxie (v3.01 x64) on Windows XP 64bit.[2] Doing so, exposes the kernel to other possible modifications as well. While some criticize Microsoft for Patchguard, both malicious and non malicious software patching the kernel can cause stability issues (most commonly, by having multiple programs attempt to patch the same part of the kernel), and Patchguard is mainly designed to prevent harmful rootkits from installing. Most anti-virus programs do not actually rely on kernal patching, and those that did (such as Symantec) are working with Microsoft to develop APIs to work without kernel patching.
As of January 13, 2009, Ronen Tzur has pulled the last x64 build of Sandboxie (v3.01) off of the download page and is no longer available. You can however download the previous x64 Sandboxie build (v3.00) by visiting the "Old Versions" page.
- 64bit available again. see: http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6842 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.188.52 (talk) 04:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Suggestion
editcreate something to convey what how an isolated environment can be of good use. AuricBlofeld (talk) 06:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
References
edithttp://www.ghacks.net/2008/12/06/ghacks-christmas-giveaway-sandboxie/
http://blogs.computerworld.com/defending_against_drive_by_downloads
http://www.techwandering.com/2006/10/04/sandboxie-a-little-write-of-hand/
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/160300/how_to_defend_against_driveby_downloads.html
I will add these.AuricBlofeld (talk) 05:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Developer's other activities, or name coincidence?
editDoes anyone know if this is the same Ronen Tzur who, according to his WP article, was active in Israeli politics? That's not pertinent to this article, but if it's true, then the article on Mr. Tzur should certainly mention his software development activities, as they too are a notable aspect of his bio. I don't know how common the name is - maybe just a coincidence? If there's a good source verifying that it's the same person, it should be added to the article on Mr. Tzur. (Sorry that I don't have time to do that research.) Unimaginative Username (talk) 03:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I believe it is just a coincidence, I believe Ronen is a common name over there, but not sure if Tzur is common, either way, the only way to find out would probably be to contact (the Sandboxie) Ronen Tzur and ask if he is the same guy? TheSameGuy (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Origin of the name
editWhat's the origin of the name? A cute diminutive of "sandbox", or was it once "SandboxIE" (= Internet Explorer) and then expanded to support other apps? Is this worth a mention? 86.164.240.239 (talk) 08:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Status
editTo clarify:
- The last binary version is 5.33.3, which is still freeware (unlike the source code itself).
- The owner Sophos removed its support from the program and even closed the forums.
- It's unknown if a new version comes out and will it even be called Sandboxie.
So for now it's discontinued. This status can always be revoked if the time comes for it. -Cardace (talk) 22:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- 1 year later, Sophos officially recommended to use a new open source version that will continue to support Sandboxie instead of Sophos. So the article was updated accordingly. -Cardace (talk) 06:54, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 7 January 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 15:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Sandboxie Plus → Sandboxie – Sandboxie Plus is not and never has been an official continuation of the original product, it's simply the community fork that gained the most traction after the open-source release. It doesn't make any sense for the Sandboxie page to be hijacked and retitled to refer to this fork as if it's the official continuation of the product (see: the opening's confusing claim that the subject is "Sandboxie Plus (formerly Sandboxie"). (The originator of the move seems to have been pushing a POV, editing the page to claim that the person who forked the codebase "took over the project": [1]) XenonNSMB (talk, contribs) 01:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- I agree, the Sandboxie open-source repository had its latest activity on April 2022, so the last word has not yet been said: [2]https://github.com/sandboxie/sandboxie. I think its maintainer (known as Tom Brown) deserves some reference: [3]https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/sandboxie-technologies-sbie-open-source-version-5-33-6-only.428156/page-50#post-3081025. See also the first post in the same thread where it says that Sophos directly appointed Tom as legal successor. 82.49.237.14 (talk) 11:05, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Some references to the Sophos website are not available anymore
editI would suggest to update them in the article with the corresponding references to archive.org (if any). 79.41.199.98 (talk) 13:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)