Talk:Post-it note
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Requested move 30 October 2022
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:09, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
Post-it Note → Post-it note – I don't think "note" should be capitalised here. QueenofBithynia (talk) 16:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Nominator blocked for sockpuppetry. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Support: No reason to capitalise 'Note'.Move to Sticky note to not use trademark. YorkshireExpat (talk) 17:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)- Move to Post-it. If this article is indeed about the brand, and not the general concept of sticky notes, then it should use the brand name. 162 etc. (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Article comes off as still about the notes themselves to me. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I assume the capital Note is the official capitalisation, i.e. "Post-it Note" as a whole is a formal product name. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Right, but we typically wouldn't name an article after the product. We don't use titles like Frosted Flakes cereal or Sunlight detergent. 162 etc. (talk) 17:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @162 etc. @Mellohi! see my suggestion above. It is already a redirect. YorkshireExpat (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Right, but we typically wouldn't name an article after the product. We don't use titles like Frosted Flakes cereal or Sunlight detergent. 162 etc. (talk) 17:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Just for informational purposes: There was a previous discussion about moving this article to the title "Sticky note" in 2015, which garnered only opposes. And here is where it was unilaterally moved from "Post-it note" to "Post-it Note" in 2018. Deor (talk) 22:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, some good points, some not so good. I think 'sticky note' may be becoming more common, but this may be driven by electronic version of the phenomenon, and it may be true that the 'Post-it' is notable in its own right. YorkshireExpat (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose -- it is a proper noun and part of the brand. --RockstoneSend me a message! 07:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Neutral.
Move to Sticky note per WP:COMMONNAME based on the Google Ngrams.Rreagan007 (talk) 00:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- As was noted in the previous move discussion, many of the Ngrams results are due to this. Deor (talk) 02:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I see. I've changed my vote to neutral, for now, based on this information. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- As was noted in the previous move discussion, many of the Ngrams results are due to this. Deor (talk) 02:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. I agree with rockstone35's opinion, these are sold as "Post-it Note" by my googling, so we should not be implying it is more genericness than it is. --Quiz shows 15:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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Post it
editPost it -- I feel it should be changed in to notes like on your caledarse you just post it -- my feel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.116.40.86 (talk) 10:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 13 August 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. While there is a consensus for moving this page, there is no consensus on what should be the title. Per WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE, I've picked "Post-it note", basing it on the content of the article, which has a good chunk of content about the brand, and in Skynxnex's !vote. If anyone opposes this decision, please start a new RM. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks 11:20, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Post-it Note → Post-it note – or Sticky note. The lowercasing would revert an undiscussed move of 3 April 2018, back to the title the article had during the RM of 2015. The trademark is merely "Post-it"; it does not include the word "Note". The company itself consistently used lowercase for the last word in the phrases "Post-it note" and "Post-it notes" for its history publication and always puts the registered trademark symbol "®" next to "Post-it", not after "Note" or "Notes". The logo does not include the word "Note" – it just says "Post-it", and the products have "notes", somewhere else on the label, often in lowercase (see here a picture that shows "notes" in lowercase if you zoom in to look at the pictures of the product label). Google Ngram shows lowercase very dominant. If there was a trademark for the full phrase, it would probably be plural as "Notes", but this title is singular as "Note". The company website has some overcapping, but does that to a lot of things, like the second word in "Post-it® Products". Sorry for reopening this question, but the last RM was tainted by a sockpuppetry problem and did not contain any of the information I provided in this rationale. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:50, 13 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 08:56, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sticky note. This ngram evidence indicates that the general term is more common than the trade marked term. I don't see then, why we should be "advertising" for 3M. Sticky note should clearly not be capitalised - ie use normal sentence case (see here). Nor should we capitalise "note" in "Post-it note" (see here). Cinderella157 (talk) 01:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support Move to sticky note - While I certainly do not believe the current title is an advertisement, Google Ngrams data shows the generic term is in far heavier use. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Sticky note. I think this makes the most sense. Rreagan007 (talk) 14:56, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Post-it. If this article is indeed about the brand, and not the general concept of sticky notes, then it should use the brand name. 162 etc. (talk) 15:34, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- But it's not about the brand. Dicklyon (talk) 05:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- If it's not about the brand, then it should be moved to post-it note. ~TPW 13:29, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- But it's not about the brand. Dicklyon (talk) 05:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Post-it note. I don't know if this is an ENGVAR issue, but we always call them post-it notes in the UK, no matter who manufactures them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:43, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sticky note per Cinderella157. Dicklyon (talk) 05:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support either Post-it note for clarity or just Post-it (no real preference which since with "note" is a bit more usefully WP:PRECISE but without is WP:CONCISE and apparently the trademark). The article feels like it's primarily about the brand and not the generic concept of such a product. Also, I think looking at ngrams if you also include "Post-it" (since I think "Post-it" without "note" is quite commonly used) in ones search (even though that has more false positives), it turns out that "Post-it [note]" is the common name. Skynxnex (talk) 03:16, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: requesting more comments based on policy. Note: WikiProject Brands, WikiProject Business, WikiProject Technology have been notified of this discussion. Intentionally left-out WP:USA to not introduce any ENGVAR bias — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 08:57, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Please avoid relisting before the discussion's initial week has finished; this can be interpreted as a sort of finger on the scale. Dekimasuよ! 09:17, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support Post-it note per the nom's rationale. Deor (talk) 13:18, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Support per MOS:AT; the only sources I can find contradicting that are using title case, which isn't used here.~TPW 13:34, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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