Talk:Platinum/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 20:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: No dabs

Linkrot: No dead links. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   I made some copy-edits.diff

   Heating the ammonium salt in the presence of hydrogen reduces it to elemental platinum.Potassium hexachloroplatinate is similarly insoluble, such that the acid has been used in the determination of potassium ions by gravimetry. "such that", suggest rephrasing for better grammar. Y

   The Lead does not mention the negative medical defects of the metal. Also, it should be expanded to at least 2 paragraphs to fully summarise the article as per WP:LEAD  Done

   Expanded the lead. Nergaal (talk) 01:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

   Suggest moving History above Production for balance.  Done

   moved Nergaal (talk) 01:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Formatting of citations appears inconsistent. Web sources need access date. Need to go through using appropriate {{citation}} templates for journals, books and web sources. Y

   Sources appear fine.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   OK, just a few points noted above. On hold for seven days. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:19, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

   Thanks, much improved now. I am happy to pass this as a Good article. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

   Heating the ammonium salt in the presence of hydrogen reduces it to elemental platinum.Potassium hexachloroplatinate is similarly insoluble, such that the acid has been used in the determination of potassium ions by gravimetry. "such that", suggest rephrasing for better grammar.

I think I wrote that. Could you tell me what you object to again? KPtCl6 is insoluble. As a direct result, the acid (H2PtCl6) is used for .... --Rifleman 82 (talk) 00:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

"such that" is clearly ungrammatical and the whole really makes no sence, suggest re-writing in plain english. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why it is ungrammatical. It's used often enough in mathematics that there is a symbol for it. But since you are bothered, I'll try and rewrite it. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 02:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is commonly used in mathematics, but in a general encyclopaedia such as Wikipedia, plain English is best. Thanks for changing this.

-- "I agree that "such that" sounds clumsy. "As a direct result," however, abruptly shifts the emphasis onto a subsidiary process away from the property itself. "... resulting in its use as..." would be smoother.

• The isotopes section should have a quick note on Pt-195 being the only stable isotope that has a nuclear spin. Nergaal (talk) 11:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)  Done

"Refer" or "reference?"

The growing use of "referenced" instead of the customary "referred to" in Wikipedia is regrettable. Besides sounding affected, "reference" tacitly "references" the Paris deconstructionists, and hence inevitably imports an obtrusive political echo into the subject. Note that my use of the verb in the previous sentence is the proper way to use this word, i.e., as a cultural signifier, not as a simple literary citation. Orthotox (talk) 20:13, 10 February 2013 (UTC)