Talk:Out of the Box

Added alternate meaning

Included the information that "out of the box" is a synonym for "out of the closet" and linked to the article on Coming out --142.157.195.81 (talk) 05:06, 9 April 2011 (UTC)'.

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Maroon (color) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 23:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Reversed move?

@Anthony Appleyard: I really appreciated your moving Out of the box (disambiguation) to Out of the box per my request. But less than a day later, you've reversed that move entirely, and I can find no discussion anywhere about it. Also, you've added an entirely different phrase ("outside the box") to this page, when that needs to have its own dab. What is going on? — Gorthian (talk) 06:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

@Station1: I just found your message at Anthony Appleyard's talk page saying that you contested this move. I wish you had posted that here. — Gorthian (talk) 07:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I have now restored this page to cover only this particular phrase; I also restored the dab at Outside the Box. Station1, I do want to have a discussion with you about whether or not to move this page. — Gorthian (talk) 07:31, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for fixing the dab pages. Please see next section below for what happened. Station1 (talk) 18:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 9 January 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved to Out of the Box. There is no consensus primary topic. wbm1058 (talk) 21:17, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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Out of the box (disambiguation) → Out of the box – @Gorthian and Station1: A new dispute about this move has arisen. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:49, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

• Where is the dispute? I know Station1 didn't want the move, and I wanted to ask some questions about that to find out more. Are you requesting the move, Anthony Appleyard, or are you asking on behalf of someone else at WP:RM? — Gorthian (talk) 09:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
• @Gorthian and Station1: An argument seemed to be developing in my user talk page, so I better get it discussed in what seemed to be the right place. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
  • @Anthony Appleyard: I did read that. You might have missed my additions to the section just above this one.

Sorry, I need to retire for the night. I'll be back in the morning. — Gorthian (talk) 09:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I agree there is certainly no "dispute" here. I simply moved Gorthian's good faith technical request at WP:RM to the "Contested Requests" section because in my opinion the target title's history of deletion and merge requests and redirect reversions made a move controversial and worthy of discussion here. The problem arose only when the move was made anyway, after the request was contested, and the complex edit history and talk page for "Out of the box" wound up at "Thinking out of the box", a new redirect to a different topic, where it would have been difficult to find. I'll address the merits of this move request below. Station1 (talk) 18:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

• Support. As of this writing, "Out of the box" inexplicably redirects to a two-sentence stub, Out of the box (feature). No clearly evident WP:PRIMARYTOPIC has been submitted for consideration. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 16:11, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
• Move to Out of the Box, which already redirects here. All the important entries on the dab page are capitalized proper nouns. As the lower-cased generic concept, Out of the box (feature) should be moved to "Out of the box", with a hatnote, unless and until it's deleted. Station1 (talk) 18:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
• Move to Out of the Box and move Out of the box (feature) to Out of the box per Station1. This makes the most sense to me. The expression "out of the box" is the origin of the other subjects, so it's pretty much a default primary topic, though the article itself is weak. — Gorthian (talk) 21:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose both moves; the first per Station1 and Gorthian, and their suggestion because the cap is ambiguous. Pppery 02:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
• Move dab page to Out of the Box, with Out of the box redirecting (vice versa would also be acceptable). I see no indication that Out of the box (feature) is primary topic over even the uncapitalized phrase; Thinking out of the box would seem to be more common. Nor do any of the other topics appear to be primary.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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Recordings

"Out of the box" has been used in the past to identify a recording at a radio station which is played immediately without listener input, usually from an established artist. Billboard has regularly used the term; numerous references may be found in its archives, via Google or this site. Mapsax (talk) 22:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)