Talk:Murder of Tair Rada
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Unsourced material deleted
editI've deleted all the subsections of "Indictment and trial" that were unsourced. They have been inserted a long time ago, and no attempt to provide a source was made. Please, either provide reliable source, or do not reinsert. -- Northern (talk) 03:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Untitled
editLINKS TO KEY MEDIA REFERENCES IN HEBREW Key references, where senior figures criticized the Israeli justice system were never published in the Hebrew edition of Haaretz, for example... probably self-censorship. I added them, but not sure if you accept non-English links.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.65.1.243 (talk) 12:02, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Don't know how to fix the typo in the Entry name: "Roman Zadorov"—Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Zernik (talk • contribs) 15:09, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
REMOVAL OF PICS
editAnybody can explain why pics were removed from this entry? Specifically, pics of a) The vicitm's hand, holding hairs, and b) crime scene? These pics were filed as evidence in the trial, there is no copyright violation here, and they are important for understanding of the text in the entry. Any explanation would be appreciated. Joseph Zernik — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.203.37.197 (talk) 08:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Article needs complete overhaul
editThis article seems to be in pretty abysmal condition, I don't even know where to start. There are huge swaths of contentious, unsourced statements, original research, and potential POV issues. This article reads more like a persuasive essay trying to convince the reader of the subjects innocence than of a neutral representation of reliable sources. Given the fact that a series highlighting this subject was just released on Netflix, this page is likely to become a frequently visited page (this is backed up by the page view counts which have skyrocketed since the release of the series) and thus it is important that this article become representative of reliable sources, and not the mess that it currently is. I will try to chip away at it bit by bit, removing the more egregious bits first, but any help would be appreciated as it seems to be a rather herculean endeavor. UnequivocalAmbivalence (talk) 07:38, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 15 October 2018
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 08:18, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Roman Zadorov → Murder of Tair Rada – This adticle is primarily about the crime, not its alleged perpetrator. 37.26.149.176 (talk) 06:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Support per nomination.
The perpetrator has been convicted and sentenced.Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)- A person who was convicted, but whose "prosecution and conviction have been a source of controversy", should be called an "alleged perpetrator", not a "perpetrator", especially when he's a BLP. 37.26.148.191 (talk) 10:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Since the documentary raised considerable doubts regarding Zadorov's guilt, I am amending my second sentence, above, to:
"The alleged perpetrator has been convicted and sentenced". Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:40, 16 October 2018 (UTC)- Actually it isn't. If he was was convicted and sentenced and then he isn't "alleged", whether you agree or not. --Gonnym (talk) 06:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough, again. I am making a second redaction of my second sentence so that it states: "The perpetrator, whose culpability was put into question by the 2016 Israeli documentary TV series, has been convicted and sentenced". Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:45, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps an exchange of verbs might be more apt: "The perpetrator, whose culpability has been put into question by the 2016 Israeli documentary TV series, was convicted and sentenced". Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:31, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- Actually it isn't. If he was was convicted and sentenced and then he isn't "alleged", whether you agree or not. --Gonnym (talk) 06:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Since the documentary raised considerable doubts regarding Zadorov's guilt, I am amending my second sentence, above, to:
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.