Talk:Mount Blue Sky

Infobox image

Image:2007-06-30-evans-sum-lake01.jpg and Image:MtEvansCO.jpg seem to be competing for the infobox graphic. I personally think the first is of higher quality and better showcases Mt Evans, but it was reverted by the creator of the second with the line "Restored image that was replaced buy commercial photographer". It shouldn't matter that he is a commercial photographer, since he has released the uploaded image into the public domain. Anyone else have input on this? --MattWright (talk) 01:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

First Ascent

I can find no documentation to back up the claim that Judge Lunt was the first ascender of Evans, so I put citation needed. Who was Judge Lunt? Google tells me that there was a Horace G. Lunt, Harvard class of '70, who lived in Colorado Springs in 1890 and by 1893 shows up as a lawyer for the appelant arguing before the Colorado Supreme court. In 1895 he was confirmed as a judge in the Fourth judicial district of Colorado, and there is now a Judge Lunt park in Colorado Springs. I've found no references to him as a mountaineer.Douglas W. Jones (talk) 21:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Question - History Section

As I was reading about the history of Mt. Evans, I became confused with the following paragraph

"In 1895, 30 years after he was forced to resign as governor because of his part in the infamous Sand Creek Massacre and its subsequent cover-up, Colorado's legislature officially renamed the peak in honor of John Evans, second governor of the Colorado Territory from 1862 to 1865.[20]"

I do not know who "he" references when they talk about "he was forced to resign as governor." I'm assuming we are talking about Beirstadt because the article talks about it being renamed to Mt. Evans, but the prior paragraph is talking about the judge. I looked up prior governors of Colorado Territory and there is no mention of Beirstadt ever being a governor.

I'm obviously no history major, and we just recently moved to Colorado, but we are very interested in the the historical value of data presented. Is it possible for someone to please provide clarification?

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmac3144 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

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plaque at top

Says what?

"he profits who helps others" - similar? help!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.164.247.131 (talk) 20:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Mount Blue Sky official

I'm afraid to make the move to the official new name Doug Grinbergs (talk) 22:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Consistency of renaming Evans to Blue Sky

Is there a policy when a place is re-named regarding discussion of historical events that occurred there? I find it awkward to read about scientific experiments done on Mt. Blue Sky in the 1940s, since it was Mt. Evans then. We probably ought to have a uniform policy on this worldwide and not solve this locally. We have the same problem with renamed military bases, renamed schools, and renamed cities. The Battle of Stalingrad is still called that, even though the city is now Volgograd. And Elvis Presley did basic training at Fort Hood even though it is now Fort Cavazos. Within the article on Mount Blue Sky, it might work to say that some event occurred on what was then Mount Evans or (then) Mount Evans. Douglas W. Jones (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

In many ways this is like the issue of taxonomic revisions. If you look into most books from around 1900 the blue spruce is not Picea pungens, but instead is Picea parryana. E.g. Here in The silva of North America vol. 12 in 1898. We use different names now. Or to use a historical example that goes the other way, Eisenhüttenstadt is not referred to as Eisenhüttenstadt (Stalinstadt). The historic name is mentioned twice and the current name is used everywhere else. Fortunately this is not something we have to decide here at Wikipedia. We base our articles on what reliable sources use currently, not on what was used historically. The siege of Leningrad is still that because reliable current sources still use it in that context. If a current reliable sources about historical events on the mountain use Mount Evens, we will use that in that section. If current reliable sources use Mount Blue Sky when talking about the period before the name change, we will use that. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)