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Hello Wikipedians, Now, Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class has second generation. Do you think we should spin off the GLA-Class to separate pages for first and second generations? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by OliverTwist78 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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The user with ID 110.164.138.254 specifically entered incorrect overclocking data GLA 45 AMG 4Matic + and 45 AMG in the table. Please draw the administrator's attention to this to determine the illegality of his actions. Tsikhotskyi19 (talk) 14:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 5 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. A decent amount of secondary sources satisfactorily were provided that omit "class", and the omission was demonstrated as correct by a comparison with primary sources. Omitting it also fits our concision criterion. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:49, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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• Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class → Mercedes-Benz GLA
• Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class → Mercedes-Benz GLE
• Mercedes-Benz GLS-Class → Mercedes-Benz GLS

– Proper name preferred by the manufacturer (https://group-media.mercedes-benz.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko/GLA.xhtml?oid=9266910)+Andra Febrian (talk) 17:21, 5 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 22:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

• https://group-media.mercedes-benz.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko/GLA.xhtml?oid=9266910
• https://group-media.mercedes-benz.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko/GLS.xhtml?oid=9267291
• https://group-media.mercedes-benz.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko/GLE.xhtml?oid=9267229

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:33, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

• Object to speedy move this should have a discussion. WP:OFFICIALNAME we don't use official names just because they are official -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 21:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

According to WP:OFFICIALNAME "Article titles should be recognizable to readers, unambiguous, and consistent with usage in reliable English-language sources." which are fulfilled by these new titles.

According to WP:COMMONNAME "inaccurate names for the article subject, as determined in reliable sources, are often avoided even though they may be more frequently used by reliable sources." Adding -Class is actually inaccurate. Andra Febrian (talk) 02:38, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

• The source used is the official first party source, not any third party sources (ie. non-Daimler automotive journalism), or even second party sources (ie. non-Daimler automotive databases, aftermarket parts databases). So there was no evidence given that the classless names were the common names, only that they are the official names. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 03:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

As i quoted, according to WP:COMMONNAMES, inaccurate names should be avoided despite being frequently used by reliable sources. I would also add that removing the -Class in the title does not affect reader's understanding of the article topic at all, so there is no downside in using the official name. This is different from, for example, renaming D.B. Cooper to a more accurate Dan Cooper because it significantly confuses readers that are more familiar with the former name. Andra Febrian (talk) 04:16, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

You have not presented anything other than first party sources. You do realize that do you not? You have not presented any sources other than first party sources. There is no inaccuracy in the current title since a model of car is a "class" of car, just as a ship class is a model of ship. It's just that Mercedes-Benz tends to be associated with this terminology rather than other companies. But the term "class" itself is not inaccurate, it is a synonym for model, and this is a model of automobile. You have not presented any independent sourcing to support your claims, only first party sources. Why don't you try to find some 3rd party sources? It shouldn't be that hard to support your move request with the necessarily WP:COMMONNAME independent reliable sources, if they are indeed the common names. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 03:03, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I figured the manufacturers knows the best what name are they using for their vehicles. Independent reliable sources sometimes use -Class and sometimes they don't, so there's a big chance many of them probably do not know the proper name either, so I figured that it's not appropriate to use independent sources to determine the official name of the vehicles. I thought it's just common sense. But since you asked, yeah sure.

• https://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/gla/
• https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/mercedes-benz/gla/ "The GLA is redesigned for 2021..."
• https://heycar.co.uk/mercedes_benz/gla_class "While the old Mercedes-Benz GLA was little more than an A-Class..."
• https://www.whatcar.com/mercedes-benz/gla/hatchback/review/n17173 "The original Mercedes GLA was little more than an A-Class hatchback..."
• https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz/gla "The original Mercedes GLA of 2014-2020..."
• https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/mercedes-benz/gla "The GLA is on sale now,"
• https://www.carwow.co.uk/mercedes/gla#gref "The Mercedes GLA is a stylish small SUV..."
• https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/mercedes-benz/gla/ "The Mercedes-Benz GLA is the latest posh small SUV..."
• https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/mercedes/gla "The second-generation Mercedes GLA is a..."

And you get the idea with the GLE and GLS.

You said "the term "class" itself is not inaccurate". It is definitely inaccurate if it uses capital C, meaning it's part of its name and I have presented evidence that the manufacturer did not use "-Class". With lowercase 'c' it becomes another word instead of part of its name, as you said "it is a synonym for model", but while it's not inaccurate there's no point of adding that to the article's title if it's not part of its name. Andra Febrian (talk) 04:40, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.