Talk:List of mobile network operators in Europe

Revise map

I have added new info for Albania, and would like to see it accurately depicted on the map. Thanks.--Shikuesi3 (talk)

Statistics for every country available

I found an interesting page from ITU (International Telecommunication Union) where there are official mobile phone related statistics on every country in the world. It can be used as an additional reference. The link is [1].Shikuesi3 (talk) 11:45, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Numbers need updates

The numbers that are provided on the operator page need updates, also some operators are inacurate and some links are old.Jan.rezab —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC).

Default view mode

So that information for all european operators to be the same, please make it in such a way:

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Country

The country had NUMBER subscribers in total, or a WHOLE NUMBER% penetration rate. (MONTH YEAR)

The regulatory authority for telecommunication in COUNTRY is the AUTHORITY NAME.

Rank	Operator	Technology	Subscribers (in millions)	Ownership
1	OPERATOR NAME1	STANDARD1, STANDARD2...	NUMBER OF SUBSCRIBERS [LINK] (DATE)	HOLDER1 (SHARE IN %), HOLDER2 (SHARE IN %)
2	...	...	...	...
Mobile Virtual Network Operators
3	OPERATOR NAME 3 (using OP1)	...	...	...

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I have changed table dimentions for optimizing free space. I think the article does not look good when all the tables are different. So I suggest to modify all the tables so that they to be common. What is your opinion about this? Can I change the article?--Dima1 (talk) 12:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Map

On the map color need to be changed for Ukraine with penetration 105% (January 2007)Dima1 16:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Changed. Ukraine, along with Montenegro, are interesting cases, however. How is it that they have such high mobile phone penetration? (in comparison to, say, Serbia or Macedonia). Thanks, Ronline ✉ 07:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Ukraine has 5 mobile operators in GSM standart. So there is big competition between them. Population in Ukraine is more than 45 million people, but prices are one of the smallest in Europe. For example operator life:), 0 eurocents (free) for network calls and 10-15 eurocents for national calls. Others have approximative the same prices.Dima1 08:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

And Hungary is above 100% now. source --KIDB 13:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Colour of Turkey needs to be updated. Penetration rate is above 80% now.--Dima1 (talk) 12:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Ireland has a penetration rate of 121% now, the map needs to be changed. 86.159.131.253 (talk) 15:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't the map key show either "> 120 %" or "120 % <" as at the moment it implies less than 120%. 91.110.114.242 (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

The map need update for France. The country has a penetration rate > 80% since end of 2006. The rate is now 91.1% source : ARCEP [2]( official agency ) Niurn (talk) 08:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Updates needed for

• Russia
• Norway

Gibraltar

Gibraltar is not a country!! it's a UK overseas territory located in Spain --Daniel bg 14:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Sources for subscriber numbers and percentages?

Where are these figures sources? I am curious when percentage are exceed 100%. Is the percentage related somehow to the total population of country, or is it some spurious figure derived from a marketing target? Stellar 11:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The percentage refers to the mobile phone penetration rate of a country. The penetration rate is equal to the total number of mobile subscribers expressed as a percentage of the total population. So, if a country with a population of 2 million had 3 million mobile phone subscribers, its penetration rate would be 167%. Ronline ✉ 05:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't that be 150% ? Bercenicity (talk) 13:46, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Consistent voice/data technology used

The info in the technology column should be consistent throughout the entire list; e.g. <underlying_technology> ( <list_of_data_technologies> (if any data services offered) ): GSM (GPRS, EDGE) UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA) CDMA2000 (1xRTT, EV-DO Rev.X) NMT

For example, the Romania section would look like this:

Rank	Operator	Technology	Subscribers (in millions)	Ownership
1	Orange	GSM (GPRS, EDGE) UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA)	10.355[3] (31 December 2008)	France Télécom
2	Vodafone	GSM (GPRS) UMTS (HSDPA, HSUPA)	9.649 [4] (31 December 2008)	Vodafone
3	Cosmote	GSM (GPRS)	5.24 [5] (September 2008)	OTE, Romtelecom
4	Zapp	CDMA2000 (1xRTT, EV-DO Rev.A) UMTS (HSDPA) - data only	1.250 [6] (June 2008)	Inquam, OTE [7]
5	RCS&RDS DIGI.Mobil	UMTS	1.100 [8] (June 2008)	RCS&RDS
6	Romtelecom	CDMA2000 (EV-DO Rev.A)	Not Yet Available	OTE

Bercenicity (talk) 13:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

This format looks better than the current table.

The GSM parenthetical could also contain Evolved EDGE in cases where it becomes available.

The UMTS parenthetical could also contain HSPA+, UMTS-FDD, UTRA-TDD HCR, UTRA-TDD LCR, Super-Charged, etc in cases where non-HSPA UMTS is provided (Are there cases like this? The table seems to suggest there are).

Bgkwtnyqhzor (talk) 06:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

New Updates for Poland

I have just updated the data of Poland and I would like to see the changes on the map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misiek889 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Number of subscribers issues: 1. Numbers appear innacurate (e.g. 16,696 in million is 16 billion) table needs correction if so. 2. The Polish Office of Electronic Communications shows different numbers: https://en.uke.gov.pl/report-on-the-telecommunications-market-in-poland-in-2014-16299 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.243.130.242 (talk) 10:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Kosovo

Kosovo is neccessary to be placed in normal country order and defined in map according to its penetration statistics. In other side Kosovo mobile network operators Vala 900 and IPKO does not use a Serbia country code +381 but uses country codes of Monaco (Vala 900) and Slovenia (IPKO), do you think that shall be mentioned as well? Someone fix this --Digitalpaper (talk) 13:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Hungary's virtual mobile operators

Hungary does not have any Mobile Virtual Network Operators. By definition, VNO is a company that has a contract with a network operator and does everything by itself. The best way to examine the matter is to investigate which company bills you the minutes, which company sends you every month your bill. In Hungary, Djuice does sell mobile service on behalf of Telenor and Magyar Posta does sell mobile service on behalf of Vodafone, but that's all, support and billing is done by Telenor and Vodafone, respectively. They are just rebranding and reselling it. I think mentioning those is worth, but not under the virtual network operator title. Just name it resellers. What do you think? --Janolabs (talk) 21:46, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Since nobody was against it, I've changed the page... Also added the today announced Red Bull Mobile! --Janolabs (talk) 15:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Network/Country ID codes

Tables should have an extra colum for network codes e.g

Ireland

Vodafone 272-01

O2 272-02

Meteor 272-03

etc....... 86.112.82.85 (talk) 22:52, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

3 UK

We need newer figures for 3 UK as the current figures are 2 years old — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guyb123321 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

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Use of affilliates sim cards in network locked mobiles

It is not widely known that you can use an affilliates sim card in a network locked mobile. An O2 locked mobile will take a Tesco sim. A Vodafone locked mobile will take an Asda sim. But a Tesco locked mobile will not accept an O2 sim! And an Asda locked mobile will not accept a Vodafone sim! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fivish (talk • contribs) 18:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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Subsections for MVNOs

I think each country's mvno should each have their own subsection, so they can be linked to directly eg fromTemplate:UK_mobile_phone_companies Notmyipad (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Logos

Stop inserting companies' logos. That's not a magazine. --Dima1 (talk) 09:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

United Kingdom

The United Kingdom section needs to be added as it has disappeared. It needs to be updated with the 'EE' the new merged company of Orange and T-Mobile. Anasoon212 (talk) 16:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Many Non-MVNO listed as MVNO under Germany

The list of operators in Germany is largely wrong. Many of the names shown are only reseller brands which lead to a contract directly with the network operator. For example in the cases of FYVE or ProSieben Mobile the actual contract partner is Vodafone Germany itself, so e.g. ProSieben is NOT the "owner" as listed. -- 2001:470:730A:0:219:66FF:FE03:E48 (talk) 18:38, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

MVNO'S?

Where have the MVNO carriers been moved to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasseru16 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Belgium mistake

The number of customers for Proximus in Q1 2013 is 5.364 million. However this is NOT a comparable number to that the other two companies provide. Footnote 2 on page 16 of the Belgacom document reads 'Mobile active customers including mobile customers Luxembourg, and including mobile data cards'.

The correct number appears to be on page 23 of the Belgacom document, where it is stated 'End Q1’13 Mobile customer base of 3,561,000 cards'.

It's imperative that for any comparison to hold ground, everything is about:

-the same territory, -the same product (not data cards for example), and -the same data (MVNOs should or shouldn't be included for everybody).

Mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) in UK

Would it be ok to start adding MVNOs to the UK section of the page?

• giffgaff
• Tesco Mobile
• Virgin Mobile UK

--nick (talk) 18:58, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

CSD overview

CSD http://www.global-teck.com/english/pdfs/CSD_whitepaper.pdf

Faxing over GSM needs providers to support CSD (circuit switched data). Faxing is important, so do not let CSD die. Please update your Info with CSD. EichertC (talk) 09:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

List Of Mobile Network Operators In Europe Including Turkey, Cyprus & Russia.

Hi Friends, I really hope your good selves or someone honest enough from Wikipedia can add a correct entry. I live with students and we share the same PC One of my students made a correction on the page entitled List Of Mobile Network Operators In Europe however after it was deleted? She was rude to the person that removed it calling him uneducated and ignorant. Obviously I didn't approve. I myself then made the correction and listed the facts that one of my students left me to copy and paste. I verified them myself and once again the entry was removed without any logic. Below I have listed why a nation that physically starts off in the Balkans in Europe to it's West, founded nearly 100 years ago as a Secular, Western, European Democracy should be allowed it's rightful place in The List Of Mobile Network Operators In Europe... As a School Teacher of Geography, I'm sure your good selves were also taught in school that both Russia & Turkey are European nations, Transcontinental whose Western Territories are in Europe & Eastern Territories are in the case of Russia, Eurasia stretching as far as China but in Turkey's case Anatolia only reaching as far as the European nations of Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan & Russia too. Unfortunately even though Cyprus (Both the Turkish Cypriot North & Greek South), Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia are left alone & included in the List Of Mobile Network Operators In Europe, Turkey has been singled out & removed and put in another category. A nation founded as Secular & European by their Blond Haired & Blue Eyed WW1 Hero Ataturk. A nation physically in the Balkans in Europe, The Former home of the East Roman Empire. A nation completely & politically European in the UN, NATO North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, Council Of Europe, Associate Member of the EEC European Economic Community since 1963, EU European Union Accessing Member expected to become a Full Member, OCED, OSCE Organisation for Security & Co-operation in Europe, The Western Europe Branch of the WEOG Western European & Other Groups, UEFA Union of European Football Associatons even the Eurovision Song Contest & European Travel Insurance Listings. As for any right wing extremists that disagree even the Nazi Party's Office of Racial Policy classed Turks, Hungarians, Finns, Estonians as Aryans in 1936 & part of the White European Race as all 4 have the same bloodline & linguistic origin, read "Ataturk In The Nazi Imagination" by Stefan Ihrig. The Bible also states the both the Turks & Germans are descended from Gomer via Japheth the Father of the European Races. Wikipedia is & should be the source of Truth & Reliability. Therefore if you have the authority or whoever does at Wikipedia can you please return Turkey back to the List Of Mobile Operators In Europe along with it's Southern Neighbor Cyprus (North & South) and neighbors to it's East: Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia where it belongs with them too. TURKEY is a part of Europe recognized by the UN, NATO, Council Of Europe & European Union

1. The United Nations Official Website Page Titled "The Economic Commission For Europe" lists Turkey, Cyprus & Russia in Europe http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/ece.pdf Europe - Economic Commission for Europe (United Nations) www.un.org TFYR MACEDONIA Skopje Praha (Prague) London Dublin Paris Amsterdam Brussels Luxembourg Berlin Warszawa (Warsaw) Bern Vaduz Vienna Bratislava Budapest Ljubljana

2. The Official Website for NATO states in Article 10 states that membership is open to any “European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area” http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_52044.htm

NATO - Topic: Member countries www.nato.int At present, NATO has 28 members. In 1949, there were 12 founding members of the Alliance: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the ...

3. The Official Website for The Council Of Europe includes Turkey in Europe http://www.coe.int/en/web/about-us/our-member-states Our member States - The Council of Europe in brief www.coe.int The Convention on preventing and combating violence against women and domestic violence makes it clear that violence against women and domestic violence can no longer ...

4. The Official Website for the EU European Union states that Membership criteria – Who can join? The Treaty on the European Union states that any European country may apply for membership & Turkey is already in accession negotiations http://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/policy/conditions-membership_en

Conditions for membership - European Commission ec.europa.eu Conditions for membership - European Neighbourhood Policy And Enlargement Negotiations

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClaudiaBonn (talk • contribs) 01:31, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Turkey is Eurasian country having strong roots in Europe. Turkey should be listed down in mobile network operators list of Europe. Muhammad Nawaz Burki (talk) 01:37, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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Suggestion: Distinguish EEA countries

Now that the EU has mandated economical roaming arrangements in EEA countries, it would be useful if each country heading could include a statement similar to:

"Xxxxxxxxx is a member of EEA and therefore qualifies for EU roaming from most other EEA networks"

or

"Xxxxxxxxx is not a member of EEA and therefore might be charged at higher rates when roaming from most other EEA networks" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.153.144 (talk) 09:48, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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Where's Russia?

Please add information for Russia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:445:500:4CF0:40B2:FA68:D131:AD6A (talk) 20:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

"Consensus" regarding Europe

User:Galatz has reverted my reinstatement of the section on the mobile networks in Russia, citing "no consensus or discussion for move." To be fair, I haven't seen a consensus for its removal either. The original move of Russia to List of mobile network operators of the Asia Pacific region has been made here by User:80.2.22.132 with a comment: "Greenland is in North America! Greek South Cyprus is in the Middle East! Armenia is in Asia! Russia is 85% in Asia bordering China! BUT Kazakhstan is 10-15% in Europe AND Turkey is 5-10% in Europe, NATO, Council of Europe & Accessing to the EU European Union".

I do not agree on the current placements of Russia, Kazakhstan, and Turkey. Russia has 78% of its population in Europe (European Russia), the European part is its historical, economic, cultural, and administrative centre, and Russia is also the most populous European nation. On the other hand, only a small part of Kazakhstan is located in Europe, with also most of its population living in the Asian part. The similar statement applies also to Turkey. An argument could be made that both Kazakhstan and Turkey (as well as Russia) participate in some European institutions, but both are more commonly grouped alongside the Asian rather than European countries.

In other words, I believe that we should base the groupings on the demographics of these countries. Unless there are argumented objections to some of these proposals (moving Russia to Europe, and Turkey and Kazakhstan to the Asia Pacific), I will make the aforementioned changes, because right now the groupings make little sense. Stadscykel (talk) 11:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Constant violation of Kosovo section

There has been a constant violation of Kosovo's operator's by anonymous user's by deleting content due to politically motivated reasons without explaining why. Furthermore this has to do mostly because they don't acknowledge the mts operations in Kosovo to exist but according to the 2013 Brussels agreement mts is a legal entity operating in Kosovo. Something must be done in order to protect the Kosovo section because this isn't the first time that has happened. Some of the user's that have vandalized the content of Kosovo:

217.73.139.199

2A04:5901:5:9700:489:2897:6C9D:EF48

So please I call for the moderators of the page to take immediate action against these constant vandalism. 62.74.15.46 (talk) 10:23, 18 June 2023 (UTC)