Talk:Lil Peep/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because...The article credibly describes how the artist rose to significance, citing three credible sources. --Barnone211 (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2017 (UTC)


Yo peep you can't just promote your new video on your wikipedia. The fact that you have a new music video that was just released is not actually info on you it's just you advertising. -nazmax 2/9/2017

Genre

Most of his songs aren't hip hop/rap. Although I'll admit some of his music is pretty hard to categorize, it isn't that. Alex of Canada (talk) 03:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC)Alex of Canada

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2017

Add date of death. 2001:8003:A605:E400:9DCB:6306:5AA4:5EDC (talk) 07:01, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DRAGON BOOSTER 07:19, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

DO NOT ADD DATE OF DEATH (retracted)

There are no current credible sources that corroborate Ahr's death. Refrain from adding date of death until a news source or a journalistic outlet has confirmed the reports. Frevangelion (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Confirmed by Billboard. Frevangelion (talk) 07:07, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
That source doesn't appear to confirm a specific date of death, so I would avoid assuming anything. The infobox currently says November 16, whereas the lead says November 15. I would just write "November 2017" until we have more information. Mz7 (talk) 07:26, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

"some dead rapper" on byline

Who the fuck did this? It's damn disrespectful, and I would change it if I knew how. But I don't know how. Yazman (talk) 07:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

This was the result of vandalism on Wikidata, a sister project to Wikipedia. I've just reverted it. Thanks for pointing it out! Mz7 (talk) 07:38, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

ADD DEATH DATE AND CAUSE

(Removed per WP:BLP) estimated 22:00 local time 9/15/17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Htxdrw (talkcontribs)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mz7 (talk) 07:27, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

(Removed per WP:BLP) Alifewithdemons (talk) 07:47, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2017

No death place to Tuscon, Arizona

Confirmed by HNHH https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/lil-peep-has-reportedly-passed-away-from-an-alleged-overdose-news.39626.html

He was about to perform a show in Tuscon and died on the bus prior to the show Xanmilk (talk) 07:54, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: It was near, but I would leave it for now, unless it is determined that he died outside of Tucson. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 22:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2017

(Removed per WP:BLP) 88.109.108.4 (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 22:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2017 False cause of death

(Removed per WP:BLP) Aidenclore (talk) 20:40, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Please cite your sources for these claims as cause of death has yet to be confirmed. Any significant statements provided without reference have no place in any article and will be treated as speculation and removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zscole (talkcontribs) 21:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 22:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2017

(Removed per WP:BLP) Marine337 (talk) 19:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP (talkcontribs) 21:48, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2017

I would like to add a different picture for his wiki Michael Entity99 (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talkcontribs) 19:05, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Cause of death isn't sure yet.

The sidebar said his cause of death was a xanax overdose. The toxology reports aren't in yet, the only source we have says he died of Suspected Overdose, Medical Examiner Says. I don't know if how I put it is the right way to phrase it, but we can't just say he died for sure from a xanax OD. Romeowth (talk) 13:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Post Malone

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=post+malone+talks+about+lil+peep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingerty101 (talkcontribs) 17:11, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

hello friend. I too love the H3 podcast and my boi Posty, but I'm afraid Wikipedia relies on reputable sources. So until someone proves the fact that that happened, it won't be put in the article, since it's just speculation. Romeowth (talk) 13:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit semi-protected request November 2017

Please delete the paragraph added here and subsequently modified. It does not include a source and violates WP:BLP. 2600:8800:1880:C359:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 05:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

  Done DRAGON BOOSTER 05:54, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 November 2017

https://www.billboard.com/music/lil-peep

Awful Things peaked at #79 on the Billboard Hot 100 WolvesS (talk) 16:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 November 2017

Releases list currently incomplete, full list should be as follows:

Albums

Mixtapes

Extended plays

  Not done for now: Please provide a source for those additions. ToThAc (talk) 16:09, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit semi-protected request

I made this edit to comply with WP:BLP as the allegation is unsourced and unfounded. @Drmies: restored it by reverting way too far in the page history, and then the WP:WRONGVERSION was semi-protected so I can't take it out again. Please reinstate my edit as described in the diff link. 2600:8800:1880:C359:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done. While I know BLP covers recently deceased people, it's still not likely we'll get sued for getting the type of drug wrong, especially given the word "suspected" and the fact that the source, Pitchfork, quotes the medical examiner. Nevertheless, Pitchfork makes sure to say "that it will be six to eight weeks before toxicology results are available to help determine a definitive cause of death" so removing this as unsourced and unknowable is fine. CityOfSilver 17:00, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
My concern is not so much a lawsuit as it is to have a quality article that conforms to Wikipedia standards, rather than a vandalized article that is a hackneyed amalgam of whatever edits by one-off editors slipped by the established guys. A good article conforms to the sources and observes a neutral point of view in spite of controversy, fake news, and current events. I thank you for helping me out with this minor change. Take care. 2600:8800:1880:C359:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 17:26, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2017

The article states that Gus dropped out of highschool, however, he did complete his diploma and graduate. Kawtharflamerz (talk) 14:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:41, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2017

(Removed per WP:BLP) 100.43.1.231 (talk) 05:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER 06:48, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request 8 December 2017

This most recent edit by @Jcremo24: is extremely deficient. The first change makes for an awkward redundant passage and can be changed from "with his death believed to be from an overdose. A few days later it was confirmed to have been a drug overdose." to "from what was later confirmed to be a drug overdose." The second addition (about thousands of people on social media) is completely unsourced and, frankly, simply trivia that is hardly unique or notable about this subject. It needs to be deleted ASAP per WP:BLP. Thanks! 2600:8800:1880:C359:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 13:33, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done already by User:MrBill3, who just reverted it. The source we have it says the cause of death will take six to eight weeks to establish and Lil Peep died just over three weeks ago so we should probably just wait before we add "confirmed" or anything like that. CityOfSilver 19:28, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2017

add other names, "peep" he was very often called only peep by his friends without the "lil" StepikR (talk) 11:40, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP (talkcontribs) 18:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Extended play/Extended plays

Why are there two sections titled "Extended Play"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.25.226.83 (talk) 02:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Lil peep

His music could be described as rock Maldonado409 (talk) 04:13, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Where it talks about his parents, it should probably be written as "Lil Peep is of (xxx) descent" rather than "has" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.87.133 (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

In Tributes there's a typo in the last line - please correct to Lil Tracy.--89.78.149.207 (talk) 17:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Done, based on good faith. --Malerooster (talk) 18:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2018

Tater121 (talk) 21:21, 7 February 2018 (UTC) i would like to add an associate- Bexey swan
  Not done: That's not how this works. It's not possible to give individual unconfirmed users the right to edit a semi-protected article. Please provide a reliable source and I or someone else will add it for you. Or since you have an account, you could make 9 more constructive edits on unprotected pages and then you can edit this page. Hope that helps. Bowling is life (talk) 21:31, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2018

He isn't dead. He faked his own death. 96.2.211.105 (talk) 23:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sakura CarteletTalk 00:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Discography

Unfortunately, I found a lot of errors in his discography, and the article is protected and can not be edited. At the bottom is the correct list of OFFICIAL albums: 1.Runnig Out Of Time (R.O.O.T) - 20/10/2016 2.Beamer Boy - 10/01/2017 4.Absolute in Doubt - 08/06/2017 5.Girls - 08/06/2017 6.Honestly - 08/06/2017 7.Kiss - 08/06/2017 8.White Whine - 08/06/2017 9.Benz Truck (гелик) 10.The Brightside - 28/08/2017 11.Come Over When You're Sober, Pt. 1 - 15/08/2017 12.Avoid - 13/10/2017 13.Spotlight (Marshmello) - 12/01/2018 PS. I apologize for language mistakes. MaciekS pl (talk) 12:45, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Cause of Death

I'd just edit this myself, but the page is semi-protected. Alprazolam (Xanax) is not an opiate pain medication (as classing it together with Fentanyl would suggest), but rather an anti-anxiety medication of the benzodiazepine class. I'm likely stating the obvious, but to ingest the two at once is profoundly inadvisable. 108.34.180.43 (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

also it wasn't an "accident" some attention seeking little cow couldn't just stay out of things and laced his xanax :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyxlr (talkcontribs) 10:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I see the incorrect classification of Xanax as a painkiller still appears in the article. How does a wikipedia user get the attention of an editor who is able to make changes to an article that has been locked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OhSusannah (talkcontribs) 16:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

You need to provide reliable sources...Guyb123321 (talk) 21:29, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Genres

Why is it not okay to include Alternative rock under his genres? Most would agree a lot of his music can fall under that category. We even had a discussion about it on the gbc Reddit. Sromero78 (talk) 01:52, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Community college

One of the referenced articles here states Lil Peep attended Pasadena Community College in Glendale, CA. Glendale Community College is not located in Pasadena, CA. Both cities have their own community colleges. Whoever wrote that referenced article needs to double-check their sources. Removing this until it can be verified if Lil Peep attended either GCC or PCC. Damian001 (talk) 21:47, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2018

I would like to edit this page by changing the leading photo to a newer photo of Lil Peep, where he has all his other face tattoos, and also edit his musical genre biography which I believe should more such as punk. Keethan00 (talk) 23:47, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. You need to wait until the 16th to become auto-confirmed. Make sure you follow the guidelines for WP:COPYRIGHT and MOS:IMAGE. — IVORK Discuss 03:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2018

Change nationality to Swedish.

Source: https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1570ff22d674e11843df267cd829f360 185.65.67.208 (talk) 08:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

  Not done Please provide a reliable source, a cropped passport picture that doesn't show the full name is not sufficient, and even if we had the full image would be a primary source anyway. Fish+Karate 13:25, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Alprazolam (Xanax) 'Pain Medication'

The article states, "certifying the cause of death was an accidental overdose due to the effects of the pain medications fentanyl and alprazolam", making the erroneous assertion that Alprazolam, a benzodiazepine anxiolytic prescription drug is a pain medication, which could be misunderstood by readers to mean that Alprazolam belongs to the same opioid class of pain medications as Fentanyl.

In addition, the same piece of text implies that the drugs were being used as a pain medications. As I understand it, Lil Peep unintentionally ingested Fentanyl, through consuming counterfeit Xanax pills that had been cut with the deadly opioid, in addition to the consumption of several other opioid drugs.

Alfredkensington (talk) 17:09, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Swedish citizenship

Was wondering if it should be written somewhere that he had Swedish citizenship?

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbkY52nAT7y/?taken-by=kathrynhollowoak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukrami (talkcontribs) 12:46, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2018

Lil Peep's favorite flavored candy was green apple. 2601:4C4:380:593:4021:138C:AD3B:F602 (talk) 05:32, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Joshq.JQ 15:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
How is that even relevant... dannymusiceditor oops 15:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2018

Do to the fact he had a Swedish passport (see pictures) he is an Swedish American rapper, not only American, being both an American and a Swedish citizen. You can see pictures of his passport on twitter and on google. He even stated being a Swedish citizen in a tweet.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Slaktaren23 (talkcontribs)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 20:11, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2018

Mention should probably be made somewhere (perhaps in the opening blurb) of Peep's name being stylized as "LiL PEEP." This stylizing was used on a lot of his earlier projects, though Come Over When You're Sober Pt. 1 and other newer releases seem to elect to leave his name as simply "Lil Peep." - LesStudios (talk) 22:45, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@LesStudios: can you please provide a reference to back this up? --DannyS712 (talk) 03:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

(Once you do, feel free to change the "answered" parameter of the {{edit semi-protected}} to "no," but for now I am setting it as answered so that it no longer appears under the requested edits --DannyS712 (talk) 03:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC))

Rap-Rock

Stop the edit war, lil peep isnt an album, therefore he isn’t rap rock EveryonesFAVORITE*toy (talk) 04:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Lil Peep's only notable recording is his album. He is dead. He will not record any new material and any unreleased material will not be substantially different. Therefore, he is the album. dannymusiceditor oops 04:18, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Pitchfork uses him as the leading example of a rap rock artist taking part in the recent resurgence. Binksternet (talk) 04:24, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Genres

So with the edit war that was going on regarding the genres, I think we should clear things up here to avoid taking it any further. I definitely think rap rock and emo pop should at least be considered as additions. There isn't many sources or reviews in general for Peep's music so we are limited on sources. His album was labeled as rap rock in a review but I saw on the talk page that this wasn't a good enough reason to add the genre. Although I do understand that, that album is nowhere near the only music of his that can be considered that genre, despite the lack of sources labeling his music. I think anyone who listens to peep even a little bit can agree with this. Now for emo pop, while its not the genre he makes the most, I would argue that a good amount of his music can fall under that category. For example, "Spotlight", "Falling Down/Sunlight on your Skin", "Yesterday", "Big City Blues", "The Brightside", "Awful Things", etc. --Sromero78 (talk) 05:50, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Uf anything, it would be Alt. Emo not Emo Pop, Spotlight is the exception here but that's also a remix and not the original song, so even then it still probably falls under 'Hip-Hop/Rap' more than Emo Pop. GOTHANGELSINNER (talk) 22:04, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Pic

Can I request for someone to crop the pic because it's too far out, make it more of a headshot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keditz (talkcontribs) 01:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Lil Peep artwork

The Lil Peep artwork in the this article can be used, I spoke to the artist and she is absolutely happy with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keditz (talkcontribs) 14:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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Pop Punk

Having seen that there was problems with my original addition of pop punk as a genre even though it was sourced, I've decided to make another discussion as recommended. I don't think it's fair to say since the album was described as pop punk that doesn't mean peep is that genre, since he does only have 2 albums to his name that have been properly reviewed by legit sources. Peep has a lot of older music that can fall under this genre, but again, it's never been properly reviewed. Not to mention he is constantly being described as a mixture of pop punk and hip hop in articles. Sromero78 (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

  • There's actually a source for both of his albums that describe the project as pop punk, as well as a source that call awful things and the brightside pop punk. Shouldn't that be good enough? Sromero78 (talk) 10:11, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Lil Peep media

There is the disturbing picture of Lil Peep's lifeless body in his media. It should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keditz (talkcontribs) 23:25, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Keditz: Where is the image ? I don't see it in the article. (Please sign your posts) - FlightTime (open channel) 23:29, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

It is in the media, if you go to one of his picture and click 'change image' you will see the disturbing picture in the gallery. (Keditz (talk) 23:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC))

Don't see it - FlightTime (open channel) 23:37, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Lil Peep

He's not Swedish-American, that's false information. - NoUsername2018 (talk) 15:23, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

No consensus to change that information. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Addition to '5.1 Tributes'

In The 1975's single Love It If We Made It, they make reference to Lil Peep.[1] Amauroticnightingale (talk) 07:37, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2018

Remove the Tag that claims Lil Peep is "Mumble rap". 204.43.130.247 (talk) 18:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 21:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2018

In the "associated acts" in the infobox, please remove XXXTentacion. Template:Infobox musical artist says not to include "One-time collaboration for a single song". The two artists only collaborated on one song, without the knowledge of Peep who was by then dead. As mentioned in the Guardian, a close collaborator of Peep says that Peep was in fact hostile towards X. [1] Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:34, 25 December 2018 (UTC) Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:34, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

  Done since the only mentions I'm seeing of them working together is for that one song, which as noted doesn't merit a mention as an associated act. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 18:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

punk rap

HotNewHipHop is a reliable source, stop coming to my page on that bullshit EveryonesFAVORITE*toy (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Remain civil User:EveryonesFAVORITE*toy, it will not help your case acting like that. But yes you are right HotNewHipHop is a reliable source per recent discussion at WT:ALBUMS. Feel free to comment there if anyone has an opinion on its reliability. StaticVapor message me! 19:11, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2019

"Lil Peep left high school early to move to Los Angeles" According to his mother (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZqh6aGfJI) lil peep finished and graduated from high school. he didn't drop out before moving to L.A. The text should state - "After lil peep graduated he moved to Los Angeles..." L4ven4th4te (talk) 00:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Suingtent (talk) 18:34, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Occupation For Lil Peep

Can we change Lil Peep's occupation to "American rapper, singer, songwriter and model" please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.28.184 (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2019

Please delete the official websites of a dead person. Just Go Up (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

  Not done. These seem reasonable to keep. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:39, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Swedish Citzenship

The article states he "claimed to have Swedish citizenship", I thought this was well known as a fact, not just a 'claim' - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOx7NKpXcAMSyKX.jpg, that was why he was able to stay in London for an extended period of a time to record his first album COWYS, due to his EU passport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:74F:5600:B54B:98AC:2536:9837 (talk) 21:27, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2020

Change the word 'opiate' to 'opioid' in the Death section. The medications listed ARE NOT opiates, which would be naturally occurring, i.e. morphine, opium, codeine... basically things from the poppy plant.

Thanks for helping to reduce ignorance in this world. 98.212.80.216 (talk) 05:59, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

  DoneThjarkur (talk) 09:08, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Misleading information on Peep's health

The source after mentioning that Lil Peep had bipolar disorder never states that he had bipolar disorder, but was bisexual. Lil peep never stated that he had bipolar disorder, but he did talk about anxiety, depression, and addiction. Change this to make it more accurate please! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freudiannips (talkcontribs) 00:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

His passing

When you talk about his death say it was Xanax laced with Fentanyl because that’s what happened. Kwclark005 (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

The name "Lil Peep"

He was quoted saying "My mom has been calling me Peep my whole life, that's how I got the name. I don't know why… She tells me I look like a "little peep" but I don't really know what a "peep" is."

She probably named him after "Lille Pip", a character in the eponymous series of children books by Sid Roland, quite popular in Sweden with his mother's generation. They were even translated into Icelandic, I read them in the late 60's, early 70's. EliasHalldor (talk) 11:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Lil Peep's Music Genres

Can anybody here please change Lil Peep's music genres in the infobox to "Hip hopemo traplo-fialternative rockpop punk"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.162.111 (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2020

He got his first face tattoo in 2015 he was 18/19, not 17 as he was born in 1996 (source: Lil Peep's tattoo tour GQ) 2607:FEA8:581F:E279:CD60:258E:A2E1:950D (talk) 20:10, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2021

I'm translating the English Wikipage of Lil Peep into Vietnamese and would like to have permission to link the translated page into the main English page. Blankboy2002 (talk) 16:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Seems to be a straightforward request to add a link to vi:Lil Peep, but the Wikidata page is semi-protected and I don't meet the qualifications to edit semi-protected pages over there. Leaving open. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:39, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
  Done. --Renat 19:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

A minor edit: "fka Bexey Swan" into "a.k.a Bexey Swan"

Title. When I was translating the wikipage, i found this. Is this a minor error? Blankboy2002 (talk) 03:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I think by "fka" they meant "formerly known as". Either way, it seems he mostly is just referred to as "Bexey" throughout Wikipedia and "Bexey Swan" wasn't in the source, so I just took it out instead. Volteer1 (talk) 04:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2021

104.163.243.123 (talk) 23:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Lil peep is only an American rapper he isn't Swedish

  Done. For the people wishing to add this back in, it needs to be accompanied by a confirmation from a reliable source. People say all kinds of things on twitter. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 02:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

See my comment a little further down, but yes please do not change his nationality from American to Swedish or Swedish-American unless a strong source can be provided, but also do not remove content about his Swedish roots that have been sourced. --TylerBurden (talk) 00:12, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Nationality?

What is his nationality? Is it American, or is it Swedish? Is there another website on his bio?

Because I googled him, and the google infobox (picking info from the head info on the wiki article) said he was American. And when I googled his nationality, it said he was Swedish.

He's born in the Pennsylvania to his Swedish father and American mother! And his Birth name is Gustav Elijah Åhr! So I don't know what his exact nationality actually is!

I feel like editing the infobox adding Nationality, but it might get reverted, so I'll just leave it. Xfhxzf (talk) 03:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I have no idea where google graph stuff comes from, bar what they grab from Wikipedia. See directly above though – I just took out some of the Swedish stuff because all we had for it was a tweet of his, so that might've effected Google in some capacity. His nationality probably only makes sense as American given he was born there and lived there his whole life. He might be a citizen of Sweden, though – I mean he said so on twitter, but I can't find anything but that one tweet about it. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 12:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

He claimed on twitter being swedish Real Bulk confectionery (talk) 00:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is based WP:SECONDARY sources. Lil Peep's own Twitter feed is not good enough. Binksternet (talk) 01:55, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Nationality was American, he was possibly actually a Swedish citizen as well, aside from his own claim that he was there is a photo of Åhr's seemingly legitimate Swedish ID. But I agree that unless someone can dig up some indisputable source that he had dual citizenship, his nationality should be kept as only American. For now I have added that he is simply of Swedish descent through his father. --TylerBurden (talk) 00:12, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Peeps family wealth

I would not say that Gus was affluent. They weren’t poor but they weren’t rolling in money. Just because Liza and his father went to Harvard means nothing. His father was out of the picture and teachers don’t exactly make the best money. Ottergoddess (talk) 14:18, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree, affluent doesn't seem accurate as I can find no sources about him coming from a wealthy background. He wasn't living in poverty but his family hardly seemed significantly wealthy. --TylerBurden (talk) 05:24, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Requesting the change of his Resting Place.

So, his Resting Place says that his ashes are buried in his grandfathers garden, this however isn't the case. On the ( r/lilpeep ) official reddit, his mom has commented under a post that asks where he is buried, she states that she wanted to bury him there, however she decided against it because she was worried someone would buy the house and dig them up, and other things.

She said, I quote: "Nope. He was cremated but he is not on the garden. When I die, he will be buried with me. I have my plot bought—top of a hill. Gus will face west and I will have his back—facing East." "The fact is that I WAS going to put Gus’s ashes in dads yard. But then I couldn’t do it. Couldn’t put him in the ground just couldn’t. And I realized that dad won’t always be there and what if some person buys the house one day and digs everything up. That horrified me. So I realized only a grave cannot be messed with. So he is going in with me—and Taz, I hope. Gotta figure that one out because dogs are not always allowed in people cemeteries."

For her comment, see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LilPeep/comments/hgfg2y/where_is_the_body_of_lil_peep/

This has now been changed. --TylerBurden (talk) 13:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

How he die

How he die 47.187.235.13 (talk) 02:15, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Read the article and learn! --Muhandes (talk) 09:59, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Lil Peep is a Swedish American, final proof with direct reference to the Swedish authorities

Gustav Elijah Åhr had a fully Swedish name and has said on his own Twitter that he had Swedish citizenship. There is also a picture of his Swedish ID card proving his statement to be true. Furthermore to finalize the evidence for his Swedish citizenship by Swedish law any child with at least 1 Swedish parent will automatically get Swedish citizenship. I have checked with both Skatteverket (the Swedish tax agency) as well as the Swedish Migration Agency on the matter and since his father was born in Sweden he automatically received his Swedish citizenship at birth. You can read about the topic of Swedish law and his Swedish citizenship on the Swedish Migration Agency. It clearly states that any child with at least 1 Swedish parent will automatically get their Swedish Citizenship. No matter if they're born in Sweden or abroad.

This should put to rest the conversation on Lil Peep being a Swedish American or not. His full name is Swedish, his dad is Swedish and one of his citizenships is Swedish, making Gustav's own statement truthful. Please do not edit war further on this topic as doing so would be going against evidence.

Quote from the source "Swedish at birth if one of the parents is a Swedish citizen A child will become a Swedish citizen at birth, no matter where they are born as long as one of the parents is a Swedish citizen.

A child is always given Swedish citizenship if

one of the parents is a Swedish citizen. It does not matter if the child is born in Sweden or abroad a deceased parent to the child was a Swedish citizen upon their death."

[1] [2] Further read from rollingstones magazine discussing how his parents met including his American mother and Swedish father. Gaudi9223 (talk) 15:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Ref 148 seems to be permanently dead

I did some research and it looks like the post was removed for some reason. The post was made around early August 2017, going by the URL (Instagram links are chronological.) I can't find any archives of the original either. I might try contacting the Gustav Åhr estate, but that may prove fruitless since the account was under the control of Åhr at the time. Should/can anything be done about this? I am still new to Wikipedia so I am not completely familiar with the procedure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeanutButterPopcorn (talkcontribs) 02:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

"American"

if he's written as "American" then I guess Timothée Chalamet should be "French-American"? Peep had Swedish citizenship through his father but he didn't speak the language nor did he ever lived there. Meanwhile, Chalamet (also whose father is French) speaks fluent French, spent summers there while growing up & holds French citizenship too. What I'm saying is that the "Swedish" part is irrelevant & redundant since this is just another case of dual citizenship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Producer Richter (talkcontribs) 05:26, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

This is a common but moot argument on Wikipedia, other articles are other articles and what is written there is what is decided by the editors working on it. By all means go and change the Chalamet article if you can gain consensus for it, some articles include both nationalities and some don't, that's just the way it works. --TylerBurden (talk) 05:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2022

All following edit suggestions made with reference to the "For the Record" page on the official Lil Peep estate website lilpeep.com [1] This source will be referred to as citation 158 since it is not already included in the references section.

CHANGE:

"Gustav Elijah Åhr was born on November 1, 1996, in Allentown, Pennsylvania to first-grade teacher Liza Womack and college professor Karl Johan Åhr. He moved to Long Beach, New York before his fifth birthday.[12]"

TO:

"Gustav Elijah Åhr was born on November 1, 1996, in Allentown, Pennsylvania to first-grade teacher Liza Womack and college professor Karl Johan Åhr. He moved to a second floor apartment at 518 W Hudson St. in Long Beach, New York before his fifth birthday.[158][12]"


CHANGE:

"Growing up, Åhr's father was absent,[19] with his parents divorcing formally when Åhr was 14.[20] He attended Lindell Elementary School, where he was placed into the gifted and talented program, and Long Beach High School in Lido Beach, New York, where he was often absent but received good grades[21] and made the dean's list.[22] He later took online courses to earn his high school diploma.[23] Shortly thereafter, he began posting his music on YouTube and SoundCloud."

TO:

"Growing up, Åhr's father was absent,[19] with his parents divorcing formally when Åhr was 14, and his father moving out of the family home at age 15 [158]. Following his parents' split, he moved with his mother and older brother to 34 E Walnut St in Long Beach, New York where he would eventually record Lil Peep Part One, Feelz, Vertigo, (most of) California Girls, Garden, In the Bedroom I Confess, Mall Music, Romeo's Regrets, and several tracks that were released as singles, including Star Shopping [158].

Åhr attended Lindell Elementary School, located just across the street from his family's first apartment in Long Beach [158]. Just a few days into Gus's kindergarten year, the September 11 attacks took place, with smoke plumes clearly visible from Åhr's kindergarten classroom [158]. In third grade, Gus was placed into Long Beach's gifted and talented program [158]. Later, in middle school, he was placed in accelerated classes. Åhr attended Long Beach High School in Lido Beach, New York, which was directly impacted by Hurricane Sandy in 2012 causing it to close down for a few weeks [158]. When the school reopened, the faculty and administrators were more relaxed on the students, leading Gus to enjoy his junior year of high school significantly more than the rest [158].

When Gus returned to school the following year as a senior, there was new administration that was unfamiliar with the student body and culture [158]. An exhausted Åhr was ready to drop out, but was assisted by a teacher named Maria Hartmann to finish school [158]. With the help of two other teachers whom Gus knew and trusted named Mr. Balsamo and Mr. Petschauer, Åhr finished high school by completing his last two necessary courses, English and Social Studies. He graduated six months early in the January of 2014 [158].

Later that January, Gus was accepted into the State University of New York at Old Westbury, but declined to attend and instead enrolled as an out of state student at Glendale Community College (California) in Pasadena, California [158]. There, he was able to enroll in one class with a middle school friend called Brennan Savage, which he ultimately dropped [158]. After his first semester at GCC, Gus decided to drop out and instead enroll at Nassau Community College [158]. In the fall of 2015, Åhr was taking four classes online (two business classes, one criminal justice class, and one art history class) in which he earned three As and one B [158].

It was during Gus's only full-time semester at NCC that he made the Dean's list [158]. However, instead of enrolling in a second term, Gus decided drop out and begin performing with Schemaposse [158]. By the end of 2015 he had already completed a large body of work in his bedroom at 34 E Walnut St. while attending school full-time [158]."

Jess Tries (talk) 23:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC) Jessica C Jess Tries (talk) 23:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jess Tries: Done with minor adjustments, mostly to conform with Wikipedia's MOS:. --TylerBurden (talk) 09:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

He was killed.

Lil peep was killed. And that is a fact. GBC laced his drugs to kill him because he was about to leave GBC. 5.90.206.54 (talk) 22:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds like a conspiracy theory, to be honest. You would need to provide a reliable source for this claim. TylerBurden (talk) 14:43, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit request.

Could anyone please add a mention of Grimes' song "Delete Forever", which was inspired by Lil Peep's dead in this article's Tributes section? Here is a list of references:

--88.108.192.14 (talk) 20:40, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Added. TylerBurden (talk) 12:29, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2022

his other show name was not Trap Goose it was always "Peep" because instead of saying his full name people would call him peep instead of just "Lil Peep" so I just want to put that out there and let you know that, and I'm not mad or anything, I'd personally though would like to see that change, Thanks have a good day 198.237.49.192 (talk) 17:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

  Not done: seems sourced. https://pitchfork.com/features/interview/lil-peeps-mother-liza-womack-talks-about-her-sons-life-and-legacy/ Cannolis (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
His name was in fact Trap Goose before he changed it to Lil Peep, as you can see in the source above. TylerBurden (talk) 02:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2022

+ category for lil peep. "LGBT Model" - participated in a Fashion week before his passing Here is the link for Proof - https://www.gq.com/story/lil-peep-says-his-fearless-style-is-what-fashion-needs Joze2458 (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

  Done TylerBurden (talk) 07:08, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Citizenship in the lead

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I see that the subject had Swedish citizenship? Should this be included in the lead sentence? I have removed it for now. Malerooster (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

His father was Swedish, so he had dual American and Swedish citizenship. That's why it says Swedish-American in the lead. TylerBurden (talk) 22:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
I understand that he might have dual citizenship, but the lead usually includes just nationality, which is different than citizenship. I would leave it out of the lead. Is there consensus for inclusion in the lead of this fact? --Malerooster (talk) 19:44, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
But isn't being half Swedish part of his nationality as he's ethnically also half Swedish? I thought nationality and citizenship were the same thing - being a national of a country gives you citizenship of said country? >> Lil-unique1 (talk)19:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm also confused by the differentiation of nationality and citizenship, which I also believe are the same thing. Either way, his nationality was both American and Swedish. Therefore including both makes perfect sense. TylerBurden (talk) 02:32, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
The word nationality refers to where you are born. A country's government grants citizenship when specific legal requirements are met. Citizenship can be seen as a political status because it indicates which country recognizes you as a citizen. Nationality has more to do with the relationship between you and your place of birth and can often be seen as ethnic or racially related. Citizenship can fluctuate since you can be a citizen of multiple places simultaneously and can also renounce your citizenship to a country. On the other hand, you cannot change nationality because it’s innate. So again, there has to consensus for inclusion of citizenship in the lead. Are there many Swedish rappers? Maybe this fact can be tied to his notability, in which case it should be included?--Malerooster (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Consensus was reached to add Swedish to the lead once it was firmly established that his father is Swedish and Lil Peep had Swedish citizenship. In terms of Swedish rappers, there are not many who are internationally famous like Lil Peep was/is. Yung Lean would be one to come to mind, interestingly like Lil Peep also a soundcloud/emo rapper. You can see on this YouTube video around the one minute mark that Lil Peep references Sweden when asked to guess one of Yung Lean's songs. Like I believe you implied being one of few Swedish rappers to attain international success and influence is something that can be tied to notability. TylerBurden (talk) 23:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

RFC about listing Swedish in the lead

Should the lead refer to him as American or Swedish-American? JDDJS (talk to mesee what I've done) 16:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

"Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable." It has consistently been overwhelmingly interpreted as to not automatically include citizenship it's not part of their nationality. Just a few of the many examples: [2][3][4]. JDDJS (talk to mesee what I've done) 17:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Seems like arguments based on personal interpretation (that actually goes against what the MOS itself says) and WP:WHATABOUTX. Evidently Lil Peep was both American and Swedish when he became notable through his music and cultural influence, him being American isn't what made him notable either. TylerBurden (talk) 17:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
The ties mentioned above seem to mostly be original research. Not only could I not find a reliable source that refers to him as Swedish, but even the ones mention his Swedish citizenship usually word it as "The rapper claimed to have Swedish citizenship", not even treating his claim of citizenship as fact. His Swedish roots have come up a couple of times in articles about him, but they are usually just mentions of them. The claim that him being Swedish is tied to his notability lacks any evidence at all. JDDJS (talk to mesee what I've done) 17:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  • American, he hypothetically has Swedish citizenship, but I don't think it's a confirmed fact. And it's hardly relevant to his success, I think it's better mentioned in the body as trivia, but definitely not in the lede.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  • American - WP:RS do not describe him as Swedish-American, so to make this claim would be WP:OR and place WP:UNDUE weight on the fact. Yes, he has citizenship... that doesn't make it part of his identity as far as the lede sentence is concerned. He does not appear to be notable as a Swedish-American, but rather as an American. Hyphenated nationalities are loaded, and should only be used when reliable sources use them. Fieari (talk) 02:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Swedish-American, because he holds a Swedish passport too and as a citizen owes allegiance to Sweden as well as the United States. ---Lilach5 (לילך5) discuss 18:59, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Swedish-American, per MOS:ETHNICITY as this is what his nationality was at the time he became notable. Important to note that the lead doesn't describe people as (e.g.) a "Swedish-American rapper" per se, but rather as a Swedish-American person who was a rapper. Coconutyou3 (talk) 09:20, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
  • American per MOS:ETHNICITY. There is no WP:SIGCOV of Lil Peep having lived, spent any significant time in Sweden or had any affiliation other than his passport. The guidance specifically says "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability." >> Lil-unique1 (talk)11:53, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
    How is this quote relevant to this particular RfC? He was a Swedish national, not just ethnically Swedish. Besides, the previous paragraph quite literally and unambiguously states that "In most modern-day cases, this will be the country [...] where the person is a citizen, national, or permanent resident [...] when the person became notable", no? Coconutyou3 (talk) 12:17, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
    As I explained, though he can enter and live in Sweden as a citizen, he was not notable for his affiliation/relationship to Sweden, nor is there anything to suggest this is significant to who he was as an individual. It also clearly says Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.. This isn't the case here. MOS:FIRSTBIO says Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable, Lil Peep was not particularly notable in Sweden as best of my knowledge, did not spend any significant time there. Note 1 under MOS:ETHNICITY says "consider whether the subject has a preference on which nationality they identify by. Unless there is coverage of Lil Peep being referred to as American-Swedish, then the fact he is Swedish by virtue of his father is irrelevant. >> Lil-unique1 (talk)12:43, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
    Again, the point about ethnicity etc. is reasonable; however, nowhere does it mention that someone's *nationality* should be omitted (there's a follow-up sentence that explains the "context" bit that I've already cited above). Additionally, he is not notable for being American (didn't represent the U.S. in any international competitions as far as I'm aware), but rather for being a rapper who happens to be American. Considering that one of the sources that his article cites [5] was posted by himself (unprovoked, at that), it also seems to meet MOS:IDENTITY. Coconutyou3 (talk) 14:52, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
    I am glad someone understands the argument, this isn't about ethnicity (which makes sense to exclude from the immediate lead) but about citizenship. If it was a case of simply being Swedish ethnically these counter-arguments about MOS:ETHNICITY would hold weight, but I don't see any valid reason for removing one of his citizenships when that very guideline cites a person's citizenship as context that should be provided. Per the tweet you cited as well as meeting MOS:IDENTITY meets WP:TWEET. The fact of the matter is that he wasn't notable for being either Swedish nor American, he was a notable artist who happened to be Swedish-American. TylerBurden (talk) 01:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
  • American per MOS:ETHNICITY; his ethnic background seems to be irrelevant to his notability. Obituaries from the Guardian: "a New York rapper, who grew up in Long Beach, New York” from the New York Times: "Lil Peep was born Gustav Ahr on Nov. 1, 1996, and was raised in Long Beach, on Long Island” neither articles mention Sweden or Swedish. Lewolka (talk) 16:48, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
  • (summoned by bot) It does not matter.--Wuerzele (talk) 16:49, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
  • American per MOSBIO. Also, can somebody post a citation that he held Swedish citizenship? I under stand that his dad was Swedish, but we need a citation for his citizenship or its original research, thank you. It looks like we are at 6-3-1 for going with American in the lead? --Malerooster (talk) 18:22, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Ok, i see the citation that discusses Swedish citizenship, do we have a citation that says Lil Peep's dad had Swedish citizenship. One article says that his dad was Swedish, is that enough? --Malerooster (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Sources mentioning Swedish father and in this reference Lil Peep confirms it himself. TylerBurden (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
TylerBurden, I know that consensus isn't a vote, but per the policy of MOS:ETHNICITY and to respect the other editors here and there voices, someone bedsides us should close this RFC. Would you then abide by that decision? --Malerooster (talk) 02:44, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
I also posted a request for review to the BLPN board. --Malerooster (talk) 15:10, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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Protection of article

@Anarchyte Hello, you recently removed the protection of this article, understandable given that it had been under semi-protection for a long period, so I can see why it would be worth trying how it'd function without protection, however as you can see on the article history it is frequently vandalized. It may be worth restoring the protection for now. TylerBurden (talk) 20:50, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I have reapplied indef semi. Anarchyte (talk) 01:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)