Talk:Khutbah

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 102.83.147.87 in topic Types of khutbah

needs citations, especially for the last sentence

Peace be upon him?

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Is the phrase following Muhammeds name in this article ("peace be upon him") really NPOV?

  • I have now removed them

Rewrite/expansion

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I'm doing a re-write/expansion of this article here. Anyone interested can contribute.Bless sins (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've moved the following unsourced content from the article.Bless sins (talk) 04:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

The khutba is usually delivered inside a mosque, from a pulpit, as Muhammad, the last prophet of Islam, did when delivering a khutba. The audience is expected to quietly and attentively listen, and refrain from distractions.

There are many forms and modes of delivery of the khutba. While the vast majority of Muslims agree that the khutba should be delivered in the most widely understood language in locality, many deliver it in Arabic, sometimes the exact words said by Muhammad.

The Friday khutba generally consists of two parts, separated by minutes of silence in reflection. The content of the parts and their length is solely at the discretion of the khatib, although it is estimated that the entire khutba of Muhammad never exceeded 15 minutes. At the end of the khutba, and before the Salah the khatib along with the audience make supplications out loud.

The Eid khutba consists is much longer and provides Muslims with a holistic perspective of their community. During the second Eid the khutba is delivered from Arafat to the entire Islamic world.

Issues from DYK

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  • Use of "k̲h̲aṭīb" appears to be a completely different transliteration system--why not standardize? Also, if we use a proper transliteration for khaṭīb, why not use khuṭbah throughout since I don't believe there is a standard anglicization (unlike with Qur'an). Of course, mixed transliteration is an issue on almost every Islam-related page.
  • "masjid jami�" seems to have an invalid character (although, I thought this university computer had most fonts)--we could use ʿ for the ʿayn?

All in all, good job expanding this article. gren グレン 15:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Any accents here were copied by myself from the Encyclopaedia of Islam. I'm not an Arabic speaker, nor an expert, and thus very unsure of the above discussion.Bless sins (talk) 04:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Although WP:MOS-AR is quite esoteric, I believe the standard transliteration (without the accents and dots) is preferred. -- tariqabjotu 18:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I'm changing several of these to the spelling most standard on Wikipedia, on the assumption that the spelling issues are hashed out at their individual articles. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:51, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

What is "Qit'aal"?

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All Google hits for "Qit'aal" seem to lead to this article or copies of it. Please explain the term, which is not known by most English speakers, such as me. Thanks! -- 92.226.26.91 (talk) 13:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Khutba is not a sermon

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Islam is kind of hard for non-Muslims to grasp. We only take spiritual direction from God, sometimes conveyed through God’s Angels, as recited by the one of God’s prophets that is the prophet for our particular religion. We only take spiritual direction from God. Therefore, the Salat, the part of Juma’a which is directly taken from the Quran, is the entire Sermon. Different Islamic schools interpret the message using different ways, yet the message is the Quran.

What is said in the Khutbah is typically spiritual in nature. Yet all Islams, and of course true followers of Jesus and so on, are on a path involving spiritual study in a spiritual community.

One ramification of this is that the khatib is not a “preacher”. They have no spiritual authority, no special spiritual connection to God, even indirectly through church leaders. Not in Islam. Respected in the community, giving a little talk as part of community spiritual studies.

Not a sermon at all. The message from God is in the Salat, the prayer part. It’s not really all that complicated.

Sorry, I have no idea where to find references to support this, and my personal ramblings are not appropriate for Encyclopedic content. However, if I remember, I’ll come back and check this someday, and if someone reading this does suggest some references, I would be more than happy to help update the content per well referenced information. 2601:646:9B00:8320:D401:CFDB:CD1E:D6F1 (talk) 17:46, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Types of khutbah

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Khutbah 102.83.147.87 (talk) 02:10, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply