Talk:Junior State of America
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editThis is a sweeping topic, at least to its members. This could be a great article. --Theaterfreak64 08:40, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
This really needs some major work. There's too many sections and not enough information. --Phoenix Hacker 06:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
In the need to Globalize JSA
editAs an ex student of Professor E.A. Rogers at the Montezuma Mountain School for Boys, in Los Gatos, California, (in 1952) I learned to appreciate the globalization spirit of "Prof Rogers", As I am Mexican, and didn´t spoke English, he started to teach me English by speaking in Esperanto (similar to Latin & Spanish) a language that would become global) and his multi-religious spirit in the Sunday meetings in his multidenominational school (I was Catholic and had to go, in his orders, to Sunday Mass to the nearby Alma College which was a seminar).
- As part of my formation I attended the JSA meetings there, and learned to appreciate its formative qualities, in learning to think fast (a forgotten art in our modern schools), listening abilities, oratory arts, debate techniques, etc.
- I believe that the Globalization of JSA, would be appreciated by Prof Rogers, and might lead to a better understanding among countries, to promote peace, and tolerance among all.
I would like to get some JSA material (computer readeble versions)and translate them into Spanish, as well as this article, to promote its introduction into Spanish speaking countries.
- I understand this is not the proper place to propose this, but I believe I can get a broader JSA audience here. MX AGS --Dagofloreswi (talk) 04:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC) (aka "tootpaste" Bill Flores 9th grade. 1952)
- Have you attempted to contact the foundation office in San Mateo? --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- I understand this is not the proper place to propose this, but I believe I can get a broader JSA audience here. MX AGS --Dagofloreswi (talk) 04:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC) (aka "tootpaste" Bill Flores 9th grade. 1952)
delete links that dont work
editdelete links that dont work like the JSA ohio one
Repeated edits incorporating copyrighted material
editA number of editors have "reverted" this article a several times to include material cut-and-pasted from the JSA website that had been previously removed. Not only is that a potential copyright violation, the resulting version of the article becomes less consistent with the Manual of Style, violates WP:NPOV, and reads more like advertising or self-promotion. To those editors I would ask that they please make revisions that are consistent with WP policies and guidelines and that are not potential violations of copyright. Agent 86 00:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
FHA doesn't exist?
editAccording to Future Homemakers of America, the organisation's name was changed in 1999. Knowing absolutely nothing about these American organisations, could someone confirm these are indeed refer to the same thing and change the name here if appropriate Nil Einne 09:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Notable alumni
editShouldn't there be a section dedicated to notable alumni of the organization? Maybe even establish a JSA Alumni catagory? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.154.162 (talk) 08:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- There should be, if the can be verifiable reliable sources references that a notable individual who already has an article was a former member of JSA, then there is no reason why a list cannot be started. See WP:SALAT regarding biography list criterea. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 09:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Chapters
editRecently an other editor created a new section regarding a new chapter at a High School. It was supported by a non-reliable source webpage, that falls under WP:SPS.
There are dozens if not hundreds of chapters that are older, and maybe more notable. However, if there is going to be a section about chapters, perhaps we should discuss whether a section should be included, the criterea for addition, and how the list should be set up. It could be in a table format, or a bullet point list, divided by which JSA State they exist in. If it is in a table format, it could be sortable, or not, and perhaps we should discuss what columns of information should be created in the table. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 09:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- That same information was introduced to several other articles, as well, and the editor also created a page for it which is presently up for deletion. I don't think there's a particular drive to reference notable chapters at this time.--otherlleft 17:07, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- I can see if a chapter is independently notable that it should have a mention in a chapter section, rather than having its own article. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:06, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed someone had changed taxes from $3 to 5$ and that is in no way true unless the a chapter ups the price to make a profit to pay for transport or something. I changed it back but do not change it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.65.26.208 (talk) 07:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- The tax increase to $5 is correct, as the Council of Governors voted to raise it in order to update Debateware and other such things, effective the 2013-2014 school year. 67.140.68.18 (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Name Correction
editI was a member of the JSA, in 1952, and if I remember correctly it was called the JUNIOR STATEMEN OF AMERICA, and it is not a State, but a society of Statemen (young Statemen): From dictionary: A statesman or stateswoman or statesperson is usually a politician or other notable figure of state who has had a long and respected career in politics at the national and international level. As a term of respect, it is usually left to supporters or commentators to use the term. When politicians retire, they are often referred to as elder statesmen.
Statespersonship also conveys a quality of leadership that organically brings people together and of eldership, a spirit of caring for others and for the whole. MX==AGS== --Dagofloreswi (talk) 03:01, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
You are right that it was called Junior Statesmen of America but COG changed it a few years ago to Junior State of America. I am not exactly sure why but I think it was for PC reasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.65.26.208 (talk) 18:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
logo changes?
editjsa changed their logo — i feel like this ought to be updated accordingly 71.136.190.71 (talk) 03:53, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Creation of Civic Leaders of America
editMany may not be aware of this but JSA has been replaced by a new organization called Civic Leaders of America. It is a grassroots, non-partisan, student run organization.
https://www.civicleadersofamerica.org
https://www.instagram.com/civicleadersofamerica/
I believe this organization should also have its own page as well. Rual07 (talk) 01:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rual07, for CLA to have its own article, it will need to independently meet the organization notability guideline through media coverage in external sources. Sdkb talk 01:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- https://ca-life.org/2024/09/13/the-fall-of-jsa-leads-to-the-birth-of-clax/ Rual07 (talk) 01:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- A high school paper is unlikely to be seen as contributing to notability. But that's at least something. Sdkb talk 02:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- https://ca-life.org/2024/09/13/the-fall-of-jsa-leads-to-the-birth-of-clax/ Rual07 (talk) 01:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)