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Requested move
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The result of the proposal was Move Parsecboy (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Janet Montgomery (actress) → Janet Montgomery — Janet Montgomery redirects to Janet Montgomerie, Countess of Eglinton. I recommend moving the actor's article to Janet Montgomery and having a hatnote point to the countess's article. In addition, a quick search engine test shows greater coverage of this living person than the countess with the slightly different name. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Support I actually have some doubts about the notability of both these people, and the actress's article smacks of autobiography. However, if we assume that they are both notable, neither seems much more notable than the other, so they are entitled to be treated as the primary meaning of the spelling of their name. PatGallacher (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- The actor is not going to have book-type notability, but Googling "janet montgomery" interview shows results like 1, 2, and 3. I don't have any comment on the article quality itself; just looking to fix the titling issue. Erik (talk | contribs) 19:57, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Support. The redirect was created before this article, which should have just been written over it. At most, all that's need is a {{distinguish}} hatnote on this article. Station1 (talk) 05:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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The article shows that she was cast for Black Swan in 2010, however filming was in 2009. I would guess that the casting date was prior to 2010, but I don't know when it was. Chznarles (talk) 11:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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Requested move 2 September 2018
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The result of the move request was: Move. Consensus is that the actor continues to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Cúchullain t/c 16:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Janet Montgomery (actress) → Janet Montgomery – The actress is clearly the primary topic, over the recently added archaeologist Janet Montgomery (archaeologist). Joeyconnick (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support. An overwhelming primary topic with 800 views per day[1]. If the archaeologist comes anywhere near that in the next few months, we can always reconsider. This will just revert the recent undiscussed page move. Station1 (talk) 21:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support, based on the page view stats from Station1. Page view stats over a year – [2] – make the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC claim even more clear. The actress page should never have been moved without discussion in the first place. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:53, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. --В²C ☎ 22:18, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- Leave sufficed (actress) as there are now three Janet Montgomeries to justify a DAB page, and with this Janet Montgomery squarely and solely known as an actress, the suffix is good for all. Actress was used in the first version, no opinion on changing to actor. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:06, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Janet Montgomery (disambiguation) already exists. And the actress is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and should reside at the base title. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:50, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Not PRIMARYTOPIC because she has less significance in the country of the other two women than the other two women. American TV generates a disproportionate number of hits, it is very biased to modern pop culture. I note the actress' article is currently lacking any secondary source content. The actress may be paid more, but the countess had far more honours for her services. There is no downside to suffixing the actress, it adds to recognisability, eliminates possible astonishment, for what reader-based reason would you want to drop it? Dropping it breaks WP:PRECISE. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:22, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- The countess, Janet Montgomerie, doesn't even spell her name the same way. The archaeologist will have fractions of fractions of readers looking for her compared to the actress. Your suggestion serves our readership less than the current proposal, as probably about 98–99% of the readers searching this topic will be looking for the actress. The few that aren't can easily be handled by the current {{Distinguish}} hatnote. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:14, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Montgomerie & Montgomery have been interchangeable since long before English spelling started to standardize. Someone looking for the historical Janet Montgomerie the countess from the old UK family could well look to the unqualified "Janet Montgomery" and be astonished by what is downloaded, an American TV actress of no significance beyond the fan base of a few TV shows. TV actors get hits far more easily that scientists,but in the long term, who is more significant? I think you can't tell. Better to have all three completely independent homonyms so that no matter who the reader wants, they immediately see and recognize one they want and two they don't. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:33, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- The countess, Janet Montgomerie, doesn't even spell her name the same way. The archaeologist will have fractions of fractions of readers looking for her compared to the actress. Your suggestion serves our readership less than the current proposal, as probably about 98–99% of the readers searching this topic will be looking for the actress. The few that aren't can easily be handled by the current {{Distinguish}} hatnote. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:14, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Not PRIMARYTOPIC because she has less significance in the country of the other two women than the other two women. American TV generates a disproportionate number of hits, it is very biased to modern pop culture. I note the actress' article is currently lacking any secondary source content. The actress may be paid more, but the countess had far more honours for her services. There is no downside to suffixing the actress, it adds to recognisability, eliminates possible astonishment, for what reader-based reason would you want to drop it? Dropping it breaks WP:PRECISE. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:22, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Janet Montgomery (disambiguation) already exists. And the actress is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and should reside at the base title. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:50, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support Clear primary topic. Dimadick (talk) 11:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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Actor playing Alex's Mom Grace was a guest to the show not Janet Montgomery.
editError? 2601:5C2:4300:54E0:41DD:70E7:3B06:A7BD (talk) 16:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)