Talk:Geoffrey Hill

Serious rewriting needed

Sentences such as the following are grossly inappropriate for a non-technical audience:

"The constant buffets of Hill's suspicion or scrupulous wariness of lyric eloquence—can it truly be eloquent?—against his powerful talent for it (in Syon, a sky is 'livid with unshed snow') become in the poems a sort of battle in style, where passages of singing force (ToL: 'The ferns / are breast-high, head-high, the days / lustrous, with their hinterlands of thunder') are balanced with ones of prose-like academese and inscrutable syntax."

(Was the editor attempting to illustrate inscrutable syntax?) It is far more important to illustrate claims with citations than with extracts, since the latter is the lit. crit. equivalent of original research. (See the following taken from the WP:NOR page:

"Our policy: Primary sources that have been reliably published (for example, by a university press or mainstream newspaper) may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. Without a secondary source, a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is verifiable by a reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge. For example, an article about a novel may cite passages from the novel to describe the plot, but any interpretation of those passages needs a secondary source. Do not make analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about information found in a primary source."

)--cfp (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Part of the article read as obscure & pretentious. Ben Finn (talk) 08:23, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Just for reference, in case it's appropriate for the article. the Wendy Cope parody is titled "Duffa Rex". Agingjb (talk) 19:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Not quite sure why the link for the collection of poems "King Log" leads to the article on the Aesop fable "The Frogs Who Desired a King" which doesn't actually contain any reference to Hill's use of the phrase. Agingjb (talk) 13:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

misperceptions

Is that a word? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

-- Of course "misperception" is a word. It isn't a marigold. 172.56.27.159 (talk) 13:34, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Copyright problem

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"latter argument"

What does "the latter argument" refer to? 172.56.27.66 (talk) 13:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

It's a rather oddly written paragraph. I have rephrased it a little. Span (talk) 14:20, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Tense

Following his passing, much of the article needs to be recast, also an opportunity to improve its readability. Perhaps we need to wait a bit. Stub Mandrel (talk) 17:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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