Talk:Cry for Help (HomeTown song)
Latest comment: 7 years ago by George Ho in topic Merge?
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Merge?
edit@Tobyjamesaus, Greenock125, and Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: Are you sure that this song is notable outside of HomeTown's album? I feel that merger into the album page is likely. The article (or information) seems too small for the song article to stand alone. --George Ho (talk) 01:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks George Ho. I believe it is, as it was a number 1 single in Ireland, so I think that easily makes it notable. Tobyjamesaus (talk) 01:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- True, it is #1 in Ireland. Even the song meets WP:NSONGS. You may have a point. However, I worry about content forking. The article doesn't have much to say about the song itself at the moment. I searched for sources and found none mentioning the lyrics, composition, production, reviews, etc. Unrelated, but I merged some song pages into Giving You the Best That I Got (album) and She Works Hard for the Money (album). --George Ho (talk) 01:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Remember, charting in and of itself does not make a song notable nor does it automatically meet requirements of WP:NSONGS. The principle qualification for notability of a songs is that it has been "the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label." If simply charting makes a song notable, every song from 1 to whatever would be equally notable because each appears in the same published chart. However, one would expect a song that reached number one to be discussed in other publications which per NSONGS would make the song notable in its own right. There is certainly nothing wrong to keep it as a stub for the time being, although I certainly wouldn't object to a merge (especially considering it's been a couple of years since it did chart). There are far too many song articles on Wikipedia which simply state chart rankings, which is always better off summarized in a discography section. I apologize for not being more helpful. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 07:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oh... No worries. We'll visit this some other time. Shall we? George Ho (talk) 07:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Remember, charting in and of itself does not make a song notable nor does it automatically meet requirements of WP:NSONGS. The principle qualification for notability of a songs is that it has been "the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label." If simply charting makes a song notable, every song from 1 to whatever would be equally notable because each appears in the same published chart. However, one would expect a song that reached number one to be discussed in other publications which per NSONGS would make the song notable in its own right. There is certainly nothing wrong to keep it as a stub for the time being, although I certainly wouldn't object to a merge (especially considering it's been a couple of years since it did chart). There are far too many song articles on Wikipedia which simply state chart rankings, which is always better off summarized in a discography section. I apologize for not being more helpful. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 07:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- True, it is #1 in Ireland. Even the song meets WP:NSONGS. You may have a point. However, I worry about content forking. The article doesn't have much to say about the song itself at the moment. I searched for sources and found none mentioning the lyrics, composition, production, reviews, etc. Unrelated, but I merged some song pages into Giving You the Best That I Got (album) and She Works Hard for the Money (album). --George Ho (talk) 01:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)