Talk:Cold-air damming

Be gentle?

It's still a work in progress, so be gentle. WindRunner 18:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

People were gentle for six years. Time for an upgrade. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

School Wikipedia Project

Hello!

I am one of three Cornell University students who have decided to upgrade this page as part of a class Wikipedia project. We have an undergrad Meteorology Major and two Information Science Majors working on the article. We also have access to the resources of the Atmospheric Science Department here at Cornell. We'll be outlining exactly what we're doing over the next day or two. Here's a link to our course page(it's also at the top of this talk page)

Cornell COMM/INFO 3460-Online Communities Nebelmeister (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I am one of the Info Sci majors who will be working on this page. Victory of the Burgh (talk) 15:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I am a senior at Cornell University majoring in Atmospheric Sciences and Meteorology who will also be working on this page. We will mostly be expanding on the information you have already provided and also adding some content that we think readers will find useful. Cornellwx (talk) 15:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit Category	User's responsible	Outline of changes
Locations	Victory of the Burgh & Nebelmeister	Appalachian Mountains, southeastern US. US west coast. Southeastern Australia. Rocky Mountains. Eastern Asia. Iceland. New Zealand. Andes Mountains, South America. Brooks Range, Alaska. Alps, Europe.
Development	CornellWX & Nebelmeister	Further details and examples for development. Images showing the development of a CAD event. How the development manifests itself at different altitudes and locations. Timeline of events.
Effects	Nebelmeister & Victory of the Burgh	Impacts on sensible weather. Influence of Gulf stream. Phenomenon of alongshore surge. Reduced gravity. Relating to freezing rain.
Erosion	Cornellwx & Victory of the Burgh	Numerical models tend to underestimate duration. Bulk Richards number 'Ri". Stability, strength of inversion layer, vertical wind shear. Cold advecton aloft, solar heating, near-surface divergence, shear-induced mixing, frontal advance, synoptic settings.
Notable events	Victory of the Burgh & Nebelmeister	Event of 30 and 31 October 2002
Classifying CAD Events	Victory of the Burgh & Cornellwx	Classical, Dry ONset & Diabatically Enhanced. Hybrid. In-Situ.
Surface Analysis (image focused)	CornellWX & Nebelmeister	Images from Lackman's textbook. Can they be used?
Detection Algorithm	CornellWX & Nebelmeister	Not enough information on this to write a section for it.

Nebelmeister (talk) 15:42, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Initial Source Ideas:

Midlatitude Synoptic Meteorology. Dynamics, Analysis & Forecasting by Gary Lackmann.

Access to Atmospheric Sciences and Meteorology Department at Cornell University.

Research papers on CAD.

Cornellwx (talk) 16:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan...one much more organized than I usually take into an editing fest on here. ;) Edit at will, which is not really my call anyway, just the wikipedia way: be bold. Remember that none of us owns any of the articles on wikipedia. Add inline references to all additions made. When it improves towards completion, you may want to consider GANing (good article nominating) the article. Remember to use clear prose which can be understandable to the lay reader...not easy if one gets overly technical. You can use wikilinks to other existent articles to help clarify what things mean. Improving one article usually opens the door to editing/improving companion articles. Don't be shy. With three people, you could get this article to Good or Featured article status within a couple months -- this has occurred with only two editors in past articles such as Numerical weather prediction. Consider yourselves knighted, even though it's unnecessary. =P Thegreatdr (talk) 00:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Feedback from Jared Kass: Hey Guys, I've looked over you're ideas for editing the article, everything looks good! You're first steps should definitely be finding relevant articles and images for your research. While it's not too difficult to find sources for information, images can be a bit trickier. You'll need to follow the guidelines laid out in the Wikipedia:Uploading images article. If an image is already found on Wikimedia commons, you can go right ahead and use it. If not, you'll need to contact the owner of the image and request permission to use it. You should try and get on that right away as it can take time for website administrators to get back to you! Post a message on my talk page if you guys need any help. Jdk243 (talk) 23:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Feedback from Prof. Leshed:

Looks like you have a thorough plan for editing and improving the article. Here are few suggestions to make your project even stronger:

• Make sure to follow up on suggestions you already started getting from other editors. Reach out to more potential editors by posting on their talk pages questions, ideas, and asking for their advice, help, feedback, etc.
• More sources, more sources, more sources.
• At least one of you needs to be comfortable with the wiki markup language and get familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines and standards.

Happy editing! LeshedInstructor (talk) 14:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions & ideas

You might want to merge references 16-22, since they are so similar and referencing nearby pages. You can use < ref name = " "> (without the extraneous spaces) to merge similar references together. Otherwise, view the article history (view history tab on the main article page) and look at the changes I have made. I have included helpful pointers which should help you along with further editing. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 02:01, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help Thegreatdr. I have been trying to write in the equation for the bulk richardson number, but I'm having a hard time coding it. We're working on it now. We will combine the references as well. Cornellwx (talk) 18:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

I added a convert template, since inches of mercury are still used by lay folk. SI units are primary and others remain secondary. Check out the format of this template. If you start using pressure levels, you're going to need to specify how high the 700 hPa pressure level normally is, for example. Remember, lay people need to understand the article. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

• For surface analyses, you can use the WPC surface analysis archive or Daily Weather Map archive. Since they are NOAA-based, they are free use. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
• It's normal to include an image at least every other section, to help with the article's illustration. The latter portion of the article is currently all text. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:05, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

• Alright. We will work on adding helpful images to the text. Thank your for the advice! Cornellwx (talk) 17:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
  • I've added an image to demonstrate how it can be done, using a concept described in the article - temperature inversion. Added a wikilink for it as well, which dovetails into the description of it before inversion's first use further down the article. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

School Project Complete

We have finished our edits for the school project, but of course there is still more work that could be done to enhance the article. We would like to thank Thegreatdr for your guidance and input. We appreciate your support of our entrance to the Wikipedia community. Thank you again! Cornellwx (talk) 17:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Not a problem. Just because the project is done doesn't mean you're not allowed to stop by from time to time. Yes, the article still needs work, but it's more comprehensive than it once was. =) Thegreatdr (talk)