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Requested move 29 January 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed. Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a bureaucracy - the fact that no one has commented in explicit support or opposition is not supposed to impede the move. The only opposition was the idea of dropping the gerund, but consistency wins out. (non-admin closure) Red Slash 23:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Black board (Soviet policy) → Blacklisting (Soviet policy) – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Most English-language sources refer to this as blacklists, blacklisting, blacklisted (applied to individuals, farms, villages, or raions). Some don’t mention the black boards at all, and those that do generally only by way of explanation (since blacklisting is the English translation). Examples:

• Heorhii Papakin (2009). ""Blacklists" as a Tool of the Soviet Genocide in Ukraine" (PDF). Holodomor Studies. 1 (1 (Winter–Spring 2009)). Translated by Marta D. Olynyk: 57–58. ISSN 1947-993X. Wikidata Q105099928. In their struggle against "malicious enemies" who were refusing to deliver their food supplies to the state, the party-Soviet organs of the USSR began to institute a system of "blacklists," one of the Soviets' most brutal repressive measures. ¶ The concept of blacklists and its very essence were formed gradually during all of 1932. On November 6 a decision passed by the CC CP(B)U announced the "goods blockade of raions that are not fulfilling the state grain delivery plan." Included on this blacklist were eight raions in Dnipropetrovsk oblast' . . . [doesn't mention black boards]
• Olga Andriewsky (23 January 2015). "Towards a Decentred History: The Study of the Holodomor and Ukrainian Historiography". East/West: Journal of Ukrainian Studies. 2 (1): 29. doi:10.21226/T2301N. ISSN 2292-7956. Wikidata Q105099952. In particular, there has been substantial research on the practice of blacklisting villages, the so-called chorni doshky—a practice that was used widely in Ukraine and the Kuban in 1932-33. Heorhii Papakin, senior researcher at the Institute of History, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, has been studying the subject for over a decade and has compiled a 180 page-long list of villages and collective farms in Ukraine that were blacklisted . . . [doesn't mention black boards except in Ukrainian]
• Anne Applebaum (2017). Red famine: Stalin’s war on Ukraine. p. 193. ISBN 978-0-385-53885-5. LCCN 2017029952. OL 26935259M. Wikidata Q105099873. In November and December 1932, as the significance of the new "unconditional" requisition orders was sinking in, the Ukrainian Communist Party enlarged and formalized the republic's system of blacklists. The term "blacklist" (chorna doshka, which translates more literally as "black board") was not new.  —Michael Z. 01:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)—Relisting. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Two of the sources you gave used "blacklist", is there any reason why "blacklisting" is preferred? "Blacklist" sounds better, whereas "blacklisting" sounds too generic. Hzh (talk) 11:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I think all three sources use all three forms outside of the snippets I chose to illustrate the concept, and there are more sources one can consult. This article is about the actions against people during historical time (could be expanded with background to 1921 or earlier) including the motivation, selection, listing, resulting punitive measures, relationship to other issues, and long-term effects, and not restricted to just lists or listing, so I chose the noun describing the action that I consider to infer the broader view. Seems clearer. Also follows the article title for the general concept, “Blacklisting.” —Michael Z. 16:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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