Talk:Assyrian captivity

Requested move 16 February 2015

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move. Supporters believe the proposed title is precise enough because we have no other articles on that topic and it would be primary topic. (non-admin closure)  — Mr. Deletionist (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

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Assyrian captivity of Israel → Assyrian captivity – Concise title. The shorter title is already a redirect. – Article editor (talk) 06:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

• Assyria deported many nations and peoples, not only Israel. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose per Anthony, clearly not precise enough to identify the topic. It could be an article on the prison conditions as found in the Assyrian Empire. -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
• Support as it is concise. Ariel ^✡ 07:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose - it is too concise, failing WP:CRITERIA In ictu oculi (talk) 11:33, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose Too vague a title, not obvious who it refers to, Judaeo-Christian systemic bias as these were not the only people who underwent Assyrian occupation. PatGallacher (talk) 19:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
• Support Per Nom. Kashta (talk) 19:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
• I quote Neo-Assyrian Empire: "Beginning with the campaigns of Adad-nirari II, it again became a great power, overthrowing the Twenty-fifth dynasty of Egypt and conquering Egypt, Babylonia, Elam, Urartu, Media, Persia, Mannea, Gutium, Phoenicia/Canaan, Aramea (Syria), Arabia, Israel, Judah, Philistia, Edom, Moab, Samarra, Cilicia, Cyprus, Chaldea, Nabatea, Commagene, Dilmun and the Hurrians, Shutu and neo Hittites; driving the Nubians, Kushites and Ethiopians from Egypt; defeating the Cimmerians and Scythians; and exacting tribute from Phrygia, Magan and Punt among others." Why does "Assyrian captivity" refer specifically to Israel? PatGallacher (talk) 19:35, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
• Strong Support - Sad to see antisemitic opposing views. Mr. Deletionist (talk) 19:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
• Support, per Babylonian captivity and a quick Google Books search. —Srnec (talk) 03:07, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose - As mentioned before, The Assyrian Empire invaded and deported many other nations. This article is specifically about the deportation of the people of Israel. Chaldean (talk) 13:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
• Support per WP:UCRN. Akkadian 21:33, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
• Support as concise. --Article editor (talk) 06:57, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Jews vs. Israelites

The opening sentence of this article is technically incorrect. The "Jews" were a later name given to the citizens of the nation of Judah, later called the province of Judea in Roman times. The Northern Kingdom was called "Israel" in contrast to the southern kingdom called "Judah." Though they shared a common origin and descent from the patriarch Jacob, it is anachronistic to call the citizens of the Northern Kingdom of Israel "Jews". The correct term is "Israelites." Cadwallader (talk) 19:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

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I delete the paragraph that begins by saying: "This particular verse is often misconstrued" because it is a personal opinion, not based on academic sources or text, and confusing. In the same way, I remove the following paragraph that says: "The scriptures of the titled" Old Testament "are not accurately complete without the records of those Hebrew writers that penned them..." etc., because it is not clear what it refers to. In any case, it is marginal to the subject of the article. It would be desirable for these articles to be written taking into account the contributions of History and Archeology, without religious or nationalist agendas.--Gustavo Rubén (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)