Talk:2001 Australian Grand Prix

Irish flag?

Not sure if this is the right way to report this, but the Irish flag next to the Jordan-Honda entry in the Constructor's points table at the end looks like a mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.234.90.5 (talk) 19:26, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

This is the right place to ask this. Eddie Jordan, the team's founding owner, is from Bray on the eastern coast in the Republic. Despite the team being based within the bounds of the Silverstone Circuit, Jordan also strongly identified team with his Irish background, and had the team registered through the Irish sanctioning body, thus establiishing the team's nationality. The teams original 1991 livery was in Irish national colours. But as witgh other British based teams over the years like Renault and Force India it is where ownership of the team is registerred that governs nationality in Formula One. --Falcadore (talk) 01:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2001 Australian Grand Prix/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: HawkAussie (talk · contribs) 01:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

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   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

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   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

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   Pass or Fail:

So I will be happy to review this article about the 2001 Australian Grand Prix. HawkAussie (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Lead

• ...the 16th edition of the event as part of the series. - This isn't entirely clear on what series we are talking about here.
• ...Ferrari driver Michael Schumacher from a pole position start. - Maybe you could change this to, Ferrari driver Michael Schumacher from pole position.
• ...second, and the - We don't really need the comma here.
• ...his fifth in row in Formula One - Forget the a between in and row
• He maintained the lead at the start of the race and for the next four laps. - You could probably change this too: "He maintained the lead until lap five...
• Following this, the first race of the season, Michael Schumacher... - You probably don't need "the first race of the season" as it was already mentioned in the first paragraph that it was the first race.

Background

• ...round as part of the series. - Again I assume this is a part of the F1 World Championship.
• Of the 11 teams and 22 drivers on the starting grid,... - You could actually drop the 11 teams part so it might go: From the 22 drivers on the starting grid,...
• The third rookie driver in the 2001 driver line-up was... - This part of the sentence feels like it might not be needed, especially when you didn't mentioned the second driver in the previous sentence.
• Many observers, including Jaguar's Eddie Irvine, Button and the president of the sport's... - I feel like this sentence might need a reference instead of being bare.
• ...becoming illegal slick tyres albeit the FIA declined to enforce a regulation... - I feel like this section might be worth a comma just to take a breather before carrying on.

Practice

• Barrichello was the fastest driver with a lap of 1 minute 29.056 seconds... - Change this to Rubens Barrichello and link it as it's the first one in the main section of the page.
• Seven minutes into the session, Tarso Marques' engine failed and laid oil on the track. - Did this bring out any flags because I assume it would with laying oil out on the track.
• Red flags were unfurled after 35 minutes when... - Maybe change this word to something that wouldn't need to check what it means.
• I feel like the final paragraph is a bit too brief for the two practice sessions which was held on the Saturday.

Qualifying

• Häkkinen had pole position early on albeit balance problems put him off the track at the bumpy turn one and he qualified third. - This section properly needs to be a bit clearer.
• ...as his best lap was 1.846 seconds off Michael Schumacher's pace; - What about changing into with his best lap being 1.846 seconds off Michael Schumacher's pace;

Warm-up

• Seems fine here

Race

• ...128,500 spectators from 14:00 local time - Shouldn't be this "at 14:00 local time."
• In the following sentence you could remove reference 43 from that sentence as it was already covered with reference 44.
• ...predicted to affect the race. Analysis suggested a solitary pit stop... - In theory, you could combine these two sentences into one.
• Button used the spare Benetton. His mechanics... - The Button sentence I feel seems a bit too short to have on it's own as it could be merged with the following sentence.
• He lost several positions and almost made contact... - You have two sentences in a row which starts with "he". Just putting it out there.
• ...turn two and pirouetted into a barrier to the... - You have pirouetted in this sentence which is fine until you realize that you had change that word to spin further up in the section. Consistency is all I can say here.
• ...in his slipstream, and - You have a comma following the "and" in this part of the sentence so I assume you wanted to go ...in his slipstream and Ralf Schumacher...
• ...detached from the car, and - Remove the comma here
• ...and lung and liver lacerations - This is just a personal thought but two and's within three words of each other doesn't look right.
• ...to move to 10th place on lap 17 - to move to tenth place on lap 17.
• ...under braking for the end of the back... - under braking at the end of the back
• ...now had a ten-second advantage... - now held a ten-second advantage instead of what it currently is.
• ...increase his pace and became the fastest driver. - This bit is unclear.

Post-race

• Out of respect Beveridge's death,... - It should be Out of respect for Beveridge's death

Death of Graham Beveridge and inquiries

• Beveridge was survived by his wife and three adult children. - This sentence needs to be worded better as "survived" is the right word in this sentence.

Coronial inquest

• Looks fine here

Doctor's inquest

• Looks fine here

References

• Just to make sure that all of the Gale group references are the right pages as all of them are currently classified as uncategorised redirects.

Final comments

• So just do those final edits and this article will be good to go as an Good Article. HawkAussie (talk) 06:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
  • @HawkAussie: Thanks for taking the time to review the article. All of the necessary changes have been made. MWright96 (talk) 10:13, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
    • @MWright96: Checked through the edits and the edits are good enough. Well done on getting another GA. HawkAussie (talk) 10:26, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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• ... that Ferrari driver Michael Schumacher won the 2001 Australian Grand Prix, which was overshadowed by a major accident that caused the death of a track marshal? Source: The Australian GP Review: Atlas F1

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WHLV (AM)

Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 11 October 2019 (UTC).

• This article was promoted to GA on 11 October after a very good expansion and is within policy (NPOV, adequately sourced and free of copyvio). The hook is interesting and cited inline in the article. The track marshal's name can be removed from the hook to make it read better; I'll leave that to the promoter to decide. QPQ review is also completed. Good to go. Dee03 12:56, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

• @Dee03: Have decided to remove the marshal's name. MWright96 (talk) 13:58, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

• Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 5: Australian Grand Prix. A new hook focusing more on the bolded subject has been proposed:
• ALT2: ... that spectators at the 2001 Australian Grand Prix were not informed of the death of a track marshal as a result of a two-car collision on lap five? Yoninah (talk) 13:29, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

As I mentioned at the WT:DYK discussion, ALT2 will need to be modified since the article doesn't seem to explicitly mention that spectators weren't informed of the death, merely that it wasn't announced in general (i.e. TV viewers and maybe the media didn't know either). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 22:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

• @MWright96: Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:28, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Have got one hook for consideration in response to the discussion above. MWright96 (talk) 13:32, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

• ALT3: ... that the death of a track marshal as a result of a two-car collision on lap five of the 2001 Australian Grand Prix was not announced until after the race ended?

That sounds better. @Dee03: Is ALT3 fine with you? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:25, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, ALT3 sounds fine. Dee03 17:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay, giving it the tick as it meets DYK requirements. The rest of the review is per Dee03's previous comments, so this should be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)