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Actual height is 1792 feet.
editUsing the “counting the spire as part of the building” the height is 1792 feet.
There is (currently) nothing in the article (or in the link at [5]) to explain why the “tip” is 1792, but the cited height is 1776.
Note: The link at [5] says Height is measured from the level of the lowest, significant, open-air, pedestrian entrance to the highest point of the building…
… irrespective of material or function of the highest element (i.e., including antennae, flagpoles, signage and other functional-technical equipment).
- Explanation at thetowerinfo.com
- In the original design there’s a spire installed atop the roof, but was replaced by a bare antenna in 2012, confusingly CTBUH still maintains the height of 1776 feet for the tower even after the spire had been replaced by the plain antenna, which always doesn’t count in architectural height. The number 1776 of the height in feet represents the year of 1776 when United States Declaration of Independence was signed, in fact the total height of the tower is 546m or 1792 feet as there’s a little skinny component of the antenna beyond the point of 541m, as shown at [[1]]
MBG02 (talk) 06:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
The height of the windowless base is actually 186ft (56.7m). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.36.193.221 (talk) 05:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2024
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as an addition to the line that says it is the tallest building in the western hemisphere, add that it is also the second highest freestanding structure of any kind in the western hemisphere, second only to the cn tower in toronto, canada 76.132.30.242 (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 21:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Split proposal 16 February 2024
editIt has been suggested that this page should be split into a new page titled 1 World Trade Center (1971-2001). (discuss) |
It is high time we opened a split proposal for this article into a separate one solely for the original North Tower. There is plenty of history and architectural merit that would warrant a separate article, the same as what was done for 7 World Trade Center (1987-2001), split from it's successor, the modern-day 7 World Trade Center. Similarly, the list of tenants would simply be transferred over to the article on the original North Tower. Previous consensus was in favor of a split as the 2 iterations of 7 WTC were independently notable. Excited to hear thoughts and suggestions. I will be suggesting the same be done for the South Tower. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 18:42, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle, though I think we might be able to write a combined article on the original Twin Towers. If we do decide to split out each Twin Tower as separate articles, we should move List of tenants in 1 World Trade Center (1971–2001) to 1 World Trade Center (1971–2001) instead, then split out the content. – Epicgenius (talk) 22:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, just as what was done for 7 World Trade Center (1987-2001)? The list of tenants would merely just be a section in each article as opposed to 2 separate list pages? And we can see if the two towers are different enough for each to deserve its own article. I anticipate that perhaps a section could be devoted to the antenna alone for the North Tower. Though if we do decide to go for the unified article, it'd necessarily have to be significantly different than World Trade Center (1973-2001). — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 00:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding
The list of tenants would merely just be a section in each article as opposed to 2 separate list pages?
, yes, I anticipate that would be the case. The two towers share a lot of their history and architecture so that's why I suggested a combined article. Epicgenius (talk) 02:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding
- Strong support per nom and the fact that it doesn’t make sense to have one article about two different buildings.
- Agreed, just as what was done for 7 World Trade Center (1987-2001)? The list of tenants would merely just be a section in each article as opposed to 2 separate list pages? And we can see if the two towers are different enough for each to deserve its own article. I anticipate that perhaps a section could be devoted to the antenna alone for the North Tower. Though if we do decide to go for the unified article, it'd necessarily have to be significantly different than World Trade Center (1973-2001). — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 00:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- MountainDew20 (talk) 22:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support because the original tower is significant on its own and deserves a separate article. We can move over the tenants lists, although they are both pretty long so it might be better to just leave them be. Readingpro256 talk to me contribs 15:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you change One World Trade Center picture into June 2024 picture 73.15.71.115 (talk) 17:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Can you One World Trade Center picture into a June 2024 One World Trade picture 73.15.71.115 (talk) 17:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- The reason why I want you to change it is because I hate the June 2021 picture so please change it 73.15.71.115 (talk) 17:48, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but we can't change pictures just because you 'hate them', there needs to be a concrete reason, or pages will become instable with people changing things that don't need changing. Readingpro256 talk to me contribs 03:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t hate all of them only the first one 73.15.71.115 (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- actually I don’t hate it but can you change it into 2024 One World Trade Center picture 73.15.71.115 (talk) 00:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually I will leave 73.15.71.115 (talk) 00:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- actually I don’t hate it but can you change it into 2024 One World Trade Center picture 73.15.71.115 (talk) 00:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t hate all of them only the first one 73.15.71.115 (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but we can't change pictures just because you 'hate them', there needs to be a concrete reason, or pages will become instable with people changing things that don't need changing. Readingpro256 talk to me contribs 03:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- The reason why I want you to change it is because I hate the June 2021 picture so please change it 73.15.71.115 (talk) 17:48, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Can you One World Trade Center picture into a June 2024 One World Trade picture 73.15.71.115 (talk) 17:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Can you change One World Trade Center picture into June 2024 picture 73.15.71.115 (talk) 17:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
105th floor?
editThe article currently says: Floors 91–99 and 103–104 are mechanical floors
with a reference to SkyscraperPage. But the source actually says floors 103-105 are mechanical floors. So is this source wrong? Other reliable sources, like Skyscraper Center don't say. Mokadoshi (talk) 16:40, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- As @Epicgenius pointed out in their latest edit on the page, the official 1WTC website lists the 104th floor as the top floor. For this reason, and because SkyscraperPage appears to be WP:UGC (but I can't tell for sure), SkyscraperPage appears to be unreliable for this article and I'd suggest we replace it with better sources. Mokadoshi (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping, and good point. I've replaced SkyscraperPage with another source. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
This is not the tallest building in the western hemisphere, or the 7th tallest building in the world
editIt’s the 11th tallest building in the world. The tallest building in the western hemisphere is the CN tower. This is blatant misinformation. 2607:F2C0:E34C:3980:1C37:55A0:2A87:D96A (talk) 16:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Telecommunications towers aren't considered buildings, since they lack functional floors. G0dzillaboy02 (talk) 12:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)