Talk:1991–92 Arsenal F.C. season/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cloudz679 (talk · contribs) 11:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

• First skim through, more to follow later…
• link £, "free kick"
• Wright's transfer is in the background section but it happened during the season so it would be good to have it mentioned there, more than the current "he made his debut".

• Not sure if this makes a difference as it's in the appropriate section; I feel it serves as a preface for readers for ins and outs that season. Same with how I dealt with Wenger's arrival here Lemonade51 (talk) 19:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

• Prose needs to be adjusted
  • "possessing the division's best attack"
  • "finished seven points clear" clarify
  • "Tottenham Hotspur, who beat Nottingham Forest" had beaten
  • "The major absentee" strange wording
  • "each team held the trophy for six months each" don't need the second "each"
  • "work on its finishing" their, about the finishing of multiple individuals
  • "during the season they and 21 other clubs resigned from the competition and joined the newly formed Premier League.[25][26]" this is confusing, they resigned during the season?

• Well, yes in technical terms. But simplified it as the technicalities aren't important.

• • "played down"
  • "got on the scoresheet"
  • "a midweek European football tie" ambiguous as tie can mean draw
  • "had taken a turn for the worst" I believe it's "worse" but the phrase should be replaced
  • "picked up no points"
  • "was unapparent" not clear if he played
  • "goalless affairs"
  • "A small crowd of 22,352" small is unnecessarily subjective
  • "Perhaps a noteworthy incident of the match was rockets launched on the pitch by Arsenal supporters, in protest of the club's bond scheme." reword
  • "six of Arsenal's goals in fact came in the second half." in fact
  • "18 points off the top"
  • "After a fortnight and three days" very strangely worded
  • "inflicted a fifth consecutive league defeat for" on
  • "prevented the league leaders from increasing their gap to Manchester United"
  • "adjudged to foul Limpar" have fouled
  • "the equaliser put in by Adams"
  • "Arsenal inflicted Liverpool their worst defeat in nine years on 21 April 1992"
  • "Wright pipped Tottenham striker Gary Lineker"
  • "The first match ended in a score draw, where a debut Wright goal was cancelled out two minutes before the end."

• "Arsenal was left", *"Watford, who was staging", "Arsenal was beaten", "Arsenal was beaten" were. I notice regular inconsistencies with using singular or plural forms for Arsenal.

• Have used 'Arsenal are' if the sentence refers to the club, 'the team were' if it's about the team.

• "the North Bank was entitled" says who?
• Quotes should be attributed, e.g. "The England striker responded resoundingly to Graham Taylor's criticism of his ineffective performance against Germany a week earlier."

C679 11:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the thorough review, believe I have addressed all your comments. Lemonade51 (talk) 19:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

• "Arsenal represented England in the European Cup for the first time since" Does this mean that they were the first club to represent England since the ban?
• "their time in the competition was short-lived" prose, missed it on the first reading
• Why is one of the columns in the friendlies section entitled "Score F–A"? Perhaps it would be better just score, with a note "Arsenal's score first", or similar
• "had taken a turn for the worst" I believe it's "worse" but the phrase should be replaced - noted above
• "Despite an improved defensive performance away to Manchester City" what does it mean, they conceded fewer goals, or made more of an effort, or something else?
• Per Wikipedia:Quotations, "Quotations must be verifiably attributed to a reliable source". I mentioned this before, but there are still at least five unattributed quotes: "Attribution should be provided in the text of the article, not exclusively in a footnote or citation. A reader should not have to follow a footnote to learn whose words a quote is" (GA criteria 2b)

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   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

   All quotations need verifiable attribution to a reliable source, in the text of the article. AGF on offline sources, which are the majority of those used in this article.

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   A. Major aspects:

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   Fair representation without bias:

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7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Just a few things to iron out. C679 19:53, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Have made corrections, thanks once more. Lemonade51 (talk) 21:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

• Corrections are all in order. Final references check:
• fn16 is used for loans of Miller and Morrow but seems to only cover Miller's deal.
• fn120 is used for the league cup result on 30 October, but the reference is dated 9 October
• Although the team's concentration and effort was improved in their next match - sounds like opinion. whose is it? C679 06:40, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Think I've got them all now, cheers. Lemonade51 (talk) 10:34, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

• Accuracy would be improved if the loans out "Return" column used specific dates rather than the current vague spans, e.g. Morrow's 4 months and 4 days being listed as 5 months, but the same player's 2 months and 27 days at barnet being listed as 2 months. May not be so easy for Cole's spell though. C679 12:15, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Used specific dates. Cole joined Bristol City permanently in July 1992 according to the Times. It was a one-month loan initially, which happened during the 1991-92 season. Guardian is the only source which made reference to that, hence why I cited it instead of Soccerbase. Lemonade51 (talk) 13:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Good work. C679 16:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)